eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 For what it's worth if it comes down to spartan barzal and rj I think RJ would be the TT Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 but likely we will find them because they wont come to the party Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Spartan said: Yeah, I definitely hope that it's one of the visiting folks, and that is a bit sketch considering we had a plan. However, if it comes down to me, you and barzal, you are definitely the TT. ok seriously, im not attacking that you did good work. I simply was saying I did not want me to be a lone with you. now that we have barzal staying im cool with it. it will be up to him to decided. I honestly don't think either of us are TT because Nyko fits too perfectly after seeing the clues. who would not protect jailer and go protect lo? unless someone told him to do that, that is an odd thing to do. LO is good but to possibly not save the BG or jailor is more susp. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I think next game we need a break from Town Traitor lol. This game mode is such a head ache Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,531 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, rjfryman said: ok seriously, im not attacking that you did good work. I simply was saying I did not want me to be a lone with you. now that we have barzal staying im cool with it. it will be up to him to decided. I honestly don't think either of us are TT because Nyko fits too perfectly after seeing the clues. who would not protect jailer and go protect lo? unless someone told him to do that, that is an odd thing to do. LO is good but to possibly not save the BG or jailor is more susp. Nyko was told to protect someone else, I don't remember who, but he went on barzal despite a plan in place I also trust myself more than barzal, and I know that if the three of us are remaining, you're going to push as hard as you can to make him think that I am TT. If I die tomorrow to a lynch, mafia wins. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Ferk 766 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Spartan said: Yeah, I lean towards agreeing with you, in that Eagles is probably the TT. I don't think he healed anyone, or was tracked by Ferk or caught by LO's (unless it was planned), so he could have pushed the idea of suiciding into vet. I will probably pick someone to jail on a whim and hope it works out. Until then, we'll lynch Devise and have everyone else suicide into vet. @a_Ferk I hope you check the thread for once.... Eagles visited Z16 on N2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,566 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 jhatty was supposed to be watching barzal, he said he'd be going on someone else. So i went to protect barzal because he's LO and no one was watching barzal, and wow it worked. FWIW I was on spartan last night and he was attacked but I healed him Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,531 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Nykonax said: jhatty was supposed to be watching barzal, he said he'd be going on someone else. So i went to protect barzal because he's LO and no one was watching barzal, and wow it worked. FWIW I was on spartan last night and he was attacked but I healed him wait....do we want to just....execute nyko now lol? I wasn't attacked, osens is clearly dead. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,566 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, Nykonax said: A) omg is in the "any" category, means spartan rj eagles me ferk or z16 are TT due to claim space B) omg isn't survivor and is town traitor. Either way we hang omg tonight, then eagles ferk and z16 suicide into rj. That leaves spartan and rj as the final two TT candidates. Alive with them would be devise and me. Doesn't have to be me, can be whoever town trusts most out of me eagles ferk z16. Spartan executes rj, then spartan is hung D1: hang omg N1: 3 of me eagles ferk z16 suicide into RJ D2: devise and the chosen one live with rj/spartan, nothing is done N2: spartan executes rj D3: devise and the chosen one lynch spartan I still think this is our best plan because of claim space, just needs some changes. D1: hang omg N1: me eagles ferk z16 suicide into rj D2: devise, barzal, rj, spartan all live. Nothing is done N2: Spartan executes rj D3: spartan is lynched This kills all possible TT candidates and ensures that a lynch can happen Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,566 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spartan said: wait....do we want to just....execute nyko now lol? I wasn't attacked, osens is clearly dead. in tos if both bg and doc are on someone the bg dies and the doc still heals. It's because both bg protection and doc heal have the same priority, so it happens at the same time Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,531 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nykonax said: I still think this is our best plan because of claim space, just needs some changes. D1: hang omg N1: me eagles ferk z16 suicide into rj D2: devise, barzal, rj, spartan all live. Nothing is done N2: Spartan executes rj D3: spartan is lynched This kills all possible TT candidates and ensures that a lynch can happen doesn't kill devise, and omg is survivor so no point taking him out. I can just execute him tonight though, so then it's me, barzal, and rj tomorrow if everyone actually suicides if that's the case, rj is the TT, and game is over Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,566 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Spartan said: doesn't kill devise, and omg is survivor so no point taking him out. I can just execute him tonight though, so then it's me, barzal, and rj tomorrow if everyone actually suicides if that's the case, rj is the TT, and game is over devise isn't a TT candidate. He fits into claim space. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,566 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Nykonax said: devise isn't a TT candidate. He fits into claim space. OMG also doesn't fit into claim space Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Spartan said: wait....do we want to just....execute nyko now lol? I wasn't attacked, osens is clearly dead. I'm with you I think he made a mistake. Even if Doc and BG are on the same person, your telling me the Jailor whom jailed Eagles last night to boot was visited by 3 people and the only one we know about is the BG and the attempted Maifoso kill? Some of the townies in the graveyard keeping up with the game are also presuming Nyko just done fucked up here. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,531 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Nykonax said: devise isn't a TT candidate. He fits into claim space. right, forgot about that since OD isn't ret. so we lay off devise, lynch omg, everyone suicides, lynch rj? Unvote Devise Vote OMG Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 10 hours ago, GustavMattias said: @osens died last night, protecting someone as a BODYGUARD... ...from @OrbitingDeath, the new MAFIOSO. osens' last will: Hide contents N1 - In the day heard a lot of talks, was thinking of going over to sheriff to drink some booze, but in the end I decided to make my way to jailer's house. Everything was quiet. N2- Continued to be quiet, but hearing these day talks I decided that it would be best to stay by jailer. Guarded his doors and everything was quiet. N3- This day was insane, we got the mafioso but still we are not in the clear. Lookouts know that I am good, so I am gonna keep on guarding our jailer. Hopefully that works out and I don't die. N4 - Protect Spartan N5 - Protect Spartan I am tired of writing it, I am on spartan everynight and gonna continue till i am dead. OD's last will: Reveal hidden contents Hey towns people, If you read this, I am dead. I was orbiting this for a while, but finally hit it. As you have figured out by now, I was not a retributionist as eagles had pointed out several times. With just a town support spot open it was the only thing that could keep me in the game, and I wish I just had given up at that time instead as I really hated to lie about the role, but guess the game forces you to do this. I am truly sorry about lying about my role, but I did what I had to do to survive a few more days. The role was the only thing I lied about and just that alone was already something that I could not really cope with and felt bad about. The rest I have mentioned is actually true and I think it's best if I will not sign up for these kind of games anymore. If I get an evil role again, I will feel bad about lying. If I am a good role again, I will probably die as soon as I have given the information (like what happened last game as psychic). It really bothered me and has cost me a lot of sleep the last few days (night time starts around 2-3 am) and I keep laying awake, grabbing for my phone to stay up to date) and if I have to work the day after being up at 7, it just made me feel miserable the whole day. Sorry if you felt that bringing my family and kids in as an excuse was foul play, I really did not mean it like that. I actually also missed forging my targets last will like I was supposed to. I want to thank MMFlex, Doomsday and Berocka for trying to guide me, and trust me they have heard me go crazy a lot in the mafia discord, going crazy that i didnt know what to do with myself, my role and this game. Thanks for being nice guides and sorry you guys all had to die before me. The previous games I tried I died without having to lie, so that is why I might have kept trying, but even if its a little one like this, i kept felling bad about it. Sorry if my mental breakdown has ruined this game for some of you, but when my brain indeed does go crazy, the thing that works best for me, is put my words on paper, trying to explain how I feel. I hope you all will keep having fun like this and I would love to see how things play out as a neutral spectator in the discords or something, but I don't think I will actually play myself to prevent myself from going crazy. Since I am the forger, I can promise you this one is not forged and is actually written by me. Good luck to everyone finishing this game. Yours truly, OrbitingDeath ALL THE MAFIA ARE DEAD! The town has three days to find the Town Traitor, starting now. Should they fail to do so--Mafia wins! List of those alive (9): Reveal hidden contents @a_Ferk @BarzalGoat @Devise @eaglesfan036 @Nykonax @omgitshim @rjfryman @Spartan @Z16 Osens was on you which means if he died protecting someone it means he was protecting you... @Spartan but the fact that nyko jumped back and forth means he is either super lucky or he really wants to be confirmed and knew who to 'save'. i don't mind the idea os switching to nyko but lets work out the math. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 there's no reason to hang nyko tonight. Devise can't suicide so we confirm him by hanging. If nyko doesn't suicide then it's just obvious GG and we just end it tomorrow Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Man this is moving fast. It's lynch OMG now? I guess I don't understand how fitting into a claim space totally justifies one as being a TT or not? We know all the remaining people are legit town, so I guess what your trying to find who lied and is still lying about their role while as those who fit entirely into claim spaces even if they are TT are at least the role they claim to be? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Devise said: Man this is moving fast. It's lynch OMG now? I guess I don't understand how fitting into a claim space totally justifies one as being a TT or not? We know all the remaining people are legit town, so I guess what your trying to find who lied and is still lying about their role while as those who fit entirely into claim spaces even if they are TT are at least the role they claim to be? this^^ Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 No one is really lying about roles anymore. its all about other things. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,531 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Nykonax said: 2x TOWN PROTECTIVE Osens BG Me Doc 2x TOWN SUPPORT Devise Medium Mike Transporter 2x TOWN INVESTIGATIVE Ferk - Tracker Barzal - Lookout 1x TOWN KILLING RJ Vet 3x RANDOM TOWN Eagles Doc JH8 LO Z16 Sheriff 1x GODFATHER Berocka 3x RANDOM MAFIA Doomsday - Mafioso OrbitingDeath - Mafioso MMFlex - Mafioso 1x TOWN TRAITOR 1x NEUTRAL EVIL Ricer13 - Witch 1x RANDOM NEUTRAL Hatter - SK 1x ANY OF THE ABOVE Spartan Jailor His point is that Devise can't be TT since there are only 2 TS in this game. Devise is the 2nd TS, so he's a confirmed, locked down town member. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,566 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2x TOWN PROTECTIVE Osens BG Me Doc 2x TOWN SUPPORT Devise Medium Mike Transporter 2x TOWN INVESTIGATIVE JH8 - Lookout Barzal - Lookout 1x TOWN KILLING RJ Vet 3x RANDOM TOWN Eagles Doc Ferk Tracker Z16 Sheriff 1x GODFATHER Berocka 3x RANDOM MAFIA Doomsday - Mafioso OrbitingDeath - Mafioso MMFlex - Mafioso 1x TOWN TRAITOR 1x NEUTRAL EVIL Ricer13 - Witch 1x RANDOM NEUTRAL Hatter - SK 1x ANY OF THE ABOVE Spartan Jailor OMG - Survivor Bold means confirmed not town traitor, either because they are dead or have been attacked by mafia. Except for spartan because that was a suicide by mafia I think. None of the random town/any have claimed town support, which means I think we can safely say devise isn't town traitor since no one is ccing his town category. For OMG to have space Spartan has to be in the RT/TK category. For that to occur one of the RT's has to be TT, or one of the any's is TT That's why tonight all the RT's + myself suicide into RJ, and we hang OMG. Means the only possible TT's left are rj and spartan. Spartan then executes rj, and if TT isn't revealed yet devise + barz hang spartan. D1: we hang omg N1: me eagles ferk z16 suicide into rj D2: barz devise rj spart live, NO ONE GETS LYNCHED N2: spartan executes rj D3: spartan is hung eaglesfan036 and Spartan 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,566 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 my plan is the only way to kill all tt candidates safely. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Is that how TT works? Like if there is only 2 town support it is guaranteed they aren't the TT? One of the two town support can't possibly be the TT? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,531 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Nykonax said: 2x TOWN PROTECTIVE Osens BG Me Doc 2x TOWN SUPPORT Devise Medium Mike Transporter 2x TOWN INVESTIGATIVE JH8 - Lookout Barzal - Lookout 1x TOWN KILLING RJ Vet 3x RANDOM TOWN Eagles Doc Ferk Tracker Z16 Sheriff 1x GODFATHER Berocka 3x RANDOM MAFIA Doomsday - Mafioso OrbitingDeath - Mafioso MMFlex - Mafioso 1x TOWN TRAITOR 1x NEUTRAL EVIL Ricer13 - Witch 1x RANDOM NEUTRAL Hatter - SK 1x ANY OF THE ABOVE Spartan Jailor OMG - Survivor Bold means confirmed not town traitor, either because they are dead or have been attacked by mafia. Except for spartan because that was a suicide by mafia I think. None of the random town/any have claimed town support, which means I think we can safely say devise isn't town traitor since no one is ccing his town category. For OMG to have space Spartan has to be in the RT/TK category. For that to occur one of the RT's has to be TT, or one of the any's is TT That's why tonight all the RT's + myself suicide into RJ, and we hang OMG. Means the only possible TT's left are rj and spartan. Spartan then executes rj, and if TT isn't revealed yet devise + barz hang spartan. D1: we hang omg N1: me eagles ferk z16 suicide into rj D2: barz devise rj spart live, NO ONE GETS LYNCHED N2: spartan executes rj D3: spartan is hung Call me crazy, but this actually makes sense. I knew Barzal wasn't TT, and Devise can't be TT since there would have to be another TS to fill in the last claim space. Therefore, if nyko, eagles, ferk, and Z16 suicide, and we hang OMG today, then there are 3 town and 1 TT left. I don't mind following this plan at all. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/40/#findComment-768146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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