omgitshim 899 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, jhatty8 said: @omgitshim what are the roles that can attack someone on n1? Vamp, SK, Maf? Pirate and if a Witch/CL controls a Vigi Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgitshim 899 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 And yeah Potion Master and Poisoner (but the poison is delayed a day) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhatty8 663 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Hmk. @Mike get online. MMFLEX 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,598 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 This is a really strange executioner play by @omgitshim. I am going to die of poison tonight most likely anyway so there is no reason to vote me. Once i die and am revealed to be the spy (really hard to fake mafia and coven visits) he is confirmed evil, and most likely turned into a jester at that point. I doubt omg would be silly enough to put himself out there like this as a member of coven or maf Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgitshim 899 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, chatfan036 said: This is a really strange executioner play by @omgitshim. I am going to die of poison tonight most likely anyway so there is no reason to vote me. Once i die and am revealed to be the spy (really hard to fake mafia and coven visits) he is confirmed evil, and most likely turned into a jester at that point. I doubt omg would be silly enough to put himself out there like this as a member of coven or maf Yes, very strange for a Lookout to go onto the Mayor who asked for TP/LO. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 @omgitshim so you are saying you saw 2 people, neither of which were eagles? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgitshim 899 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr_Hatter said: @omgitshim so you are saying you saw 2 people, neither of which were eagles? Correct. Waiting on @osens to give me the ok to reveal the other name. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Ok well there's pretty much two options here. Either eagles is lying, or omg is, because they directly contradict eachother. (Eagles says he visited osens, omg says he didn't) eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Was anyone controlled or transported? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Right now I trust eagles more than I trust omg. @omgitshim can you give me a reason to trust you? I'm failing to see how. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgitshim 899 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr_Hatter said: Right now I trust eagles more than I trust omg. @omgitshim can you give me a reason to trust you? I'm failing to see how. You were one of the visitors. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, omgitshim said: You were one of the visitors. Well that certainly is a good reason to trust omg. I think its definitely possible to read that from how I was approaching that situation, and I know omg is certainly smart enough to do so, but he is right, I was one of the visitors. bigAL 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMFLEX 191 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr_Hatter said: Right now I trust eagles more than I trust omg. @omgitshim can you give me a reason to trust you? I'm failing to see how. I agree with both of your posts. Seems like an exe play. But, what if the people that OMG says visited osens confirm they went there? Can't be all maf/coven that would confirm that cuz that's just a bigger target on them. Mr_Hatter 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I don’t want whoever else was on osens to reveal themselves, because that's likely our TP. But omg has certainly given us something to think about. Spy visits do get detected by lookout right? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,598 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr_Hatter said: I don’t want whoever else was on osens to reveal themselves, because that's likely our TP. But omg has certainly given us something to think about. Spy visits do get detected by lookout right? They do. this is either a fuckup by @GustavMattias or omg is the executioner Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,598 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 In other news, the fact that mafia did not visit osens means that whoever roleblocked him is indeed the escort Mr_Hatter 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Question: disguiser can only target fellow mafia; is there any mafia role that can target non mafia and disguise them as someone else? Or any role at all? I was thinking that maybe omg and eagles stories could both fit, if a disguiser disguised eagles as someone else, but I just realized omg then should have seen 3 people on osens assuming eagles saw the coven visit on osens. So at this point I really can't think of a way for them to be both telling the truth. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 What it comes down to for me is that eagles knew there was a roleblock. He could be jester or that could have been a guess, but he knew there was a rb before anyone said that. (Sure, you could think the escort was actually a consort, but take it from me, that isn't the case) So now I'm a little annoyed with myself for giving omg a chance to muddy things up, because that was a pretty easy read. But it does make me hesitate to straight up vote him out. But here's the deal. Omg is either exe, jest, or lookout. Nothing else would make sense to be so aggressive D2. So we can leave him be for now and just know that one of the two are probably lying. eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,598 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 still would like to hear from @Devise what happened to him last night Mr_Hatter and JorgTheGoat03 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Question @GustavMattias In normal tos, mafia has to have a killing role. As in once gf or mafioso is dead, someone becomes the gf/mafioso (depending) Is that the case in any all? Like do we know for a fact that if there is mafia then there is at least a mafioso? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgTheGoat03 53 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Yeah, atm we probably should wait to lynch OMG or chatfan. Do we have any other info from TIs that may be of use? Or info from anyone at all? Mr_Hatter 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 My thoughts exactly. Would like to see devise make some sort of claim Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,598 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr_Hatter said: Question @GustavMattias In normal tos, mafia has to have a killing role. As in once gf or mafioso is dead, someone becomes the gf/mafioso (depending) Is that the case in any all? Like do we know for a fact that if there is mafia then there is at least a mafioso? pretty sure there has to be a godfather or mafioso Mr_Hatter 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgTheGoat03 53 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, Mr_Hatter said: Question @GustavMattias In normal tos, mafia has to have a killing role. As in once gf or mafioso is dead, someone becomes the gf/mafioso (depending) Is that the case in any all? Like do we know for a fact that if there is mafia then there is at least a mafioso? From what I understand (throughout my experience of playing), if there is a maf in any all it is guaranteed for there to be at least maf killing Mr_Hatter 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgTheGoat03 53 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 *at least 1 maf killing This could include an ambusher so we want to keep that in mind (this is as long as I am not mistaken from my experience playing) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/95063-town-of-salem-13/page/4/#findComment-795298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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