Beketov

In lieu of @Quik’s extended leave of absence, and with off-season stuff needing to be done, the league has decided to appoint @Jubo07 as interim GM of Helsinki. He has been given the VHL GM group on the forum and control of Helsinki on the portal. We will be deciding after the off-season how to handle the situation but for now Jubo has every right Quik had as GM. This includes but is not limited to drafting, trading, and offering free agents.

No, I don’t. I mean it’s hard to police 250+ posts every hour of every day. Our mod staff can’t be on 24/7. Now there are some who have quite frankly not acted according to their rank mind you and there will be consequences.

Nah, no one played AW and even fewer played hardpoint haha. Top 1000 was dead easy.

You guys all wanted discord to have a bigger percentage so it kinda needs the follow the same rules since it’s such a big part of the league. You can’t have it both ways.

I was top 500 in the world in AW’s Hardpoint mode at one point.

That’s actually an interesting idea. One of our issues is just how massively active our discord is so policing it is incredibly difficult. It wouldn’t totally solve the problem to have a “disclaimer” channel but at least anyone going into it would be agreeing to the terms.

Completely agree. I’ve always been against having such strict rules like “these words are fine, these are not” but quite frankly it’s not being a SJW to say that you shouldn’t be using some words. Why call it gay when you could just say “this is bullshit”? Why say retarded when you could just say “well that’s stupid”. There are non-offensive versions out there. As a league I did think we had come further than we have. I don’t think we’re the cesspool that simply searching up terms on discord makes it seem (context sometimes is important) but I don’t think we’ve come as far from 2007 as I would have liked. Do better VHL. And be warned if you choose not to.

If you don’t then the Mercs would definitely make you regret it and Would also get their best player ever haha

I can’t really say banned anymore so... fired?

I kinda realized that after I wrote it hit close enough haha

Just curious do you mean a code of conduct for the staff or for the members or both? We do have an overarching code kicking around somewhere but I’d need to dig it up. It obviously doesn’t cover every little thing because that would be impossible an in general we do like some ambiguity with our rules because having everything set 109% in stone just leads to people trying to find loopholes but if the CoC needs to be updated to be a bit more strict that’s more than reasonable.

It is, that’s likely a remnant from the old one. And Remembrance Day is just Canadian I think. Though isn’t it veteran’s day in the US?

That I don’t deny.

Hey now, Thompson was always badass in the playoffs, even if the team wasn’t haha.

All write in votes shall he interpreted as Thompson

Never said anyone should vote for me over anyone else. Just making sure the criteria of the vote are known. Also Davison > Rayz but that’s a whole other thing.

Also a word of note as well: the reason this only includes regular season stats is because this is a regular season only award, it does not count playoff performance.

Sorry for the extra tag spam, blame @DilIsPickle for needing his vote edited

Thompson’s last hurrah, hoping to leave with another gold to the pile.

I said several times in here that I would be talking to them later. I’ve literally been at work while trying to deal with all of this so I haven’t had time to get into a deeper conversation. I’m not sure how me saying “I’ll talk to them about this and how it’s not okay” comes off as nothing is going to happen.

As I said, I plan on talking to them. If you want to retire because we aren’t going to ban every member who utters a word you disagree with them quite frankly I’m not going to stop you because I’m not going to do that. We do have a certain level of tolerance that I will not apologize for but quite frankly all I was doing was trying to de-escalate the situation while I didn’t fully have time (given that I’m at work and focussing more on this argument than my job) to devote to talking to the offending parties. I think it a bit ridiculous to leave the league entirely over a single comment but I’m not going to stop you if that’s what you want to do, it’s your choice to make.

Different leagues, different rules. I understand your concerns but I’m not going to fire or ban a member over something like this. Is it crossing a line, maybe. Is it threatening death on all homosexuals and declaring we need a purge: certainly not. It’s an offhand comment. An ill-advised one and one that shouldn’t be made but I’m not firing anyone over it. Call it what you will but we don’t punish people that severely for that, at least not right now. But yes, I will talk to them and yes we will make it clearer that the behaviour isn’t necessary or warranted. Ultimately it shouldn’t be used and I’m not making excuses for it but the VHL has usual had an “older internet” level of tolerance toward things. Coming in and hanging up on someone because of a single comment isn’t going to change their mind though and we aren’t going to police every comment from every member. If you have a problem report it.

Alright everyone, calm down. There’s no reason to make a huge deal out of this. For too many years now, especially on the internet, gay = dumb has been the mindset. I’m not defending it or saying it’s right but that has been the case. @Josh and @Banackock you guys should realistically recognize this is the case and ideally choose your words more carefully. I get being heated in the moment but your words reflect on your positions in the league. However I will say that having a whole pile of members come in here and pile onto a single comment, I’ll-thought out or otherwise, isn’t really a great look either. Talk to the guy in private or message the mods if you’d like but let’s not make a huge stink out of this because someone made a poor comment and certainly let’s not insinuate he be fired over it. We’re making a huge deal in here out of a small thing. Josh and Bana, do better. @Doc Holliday, @Erik Summers, @Beowoof, and anyone else: don’t make a mountain out of a single comment someone makes when upset. If it bothers you that much bring it up with someone but let’s not get in a giant fight over this.

Really meant to say more in the announcement but didn't because I'm dumb sometimes. To save everyone getting the double tag spam I'll just reply here. Beaviss has been an absolutely amazing member in his relatively short time here and follows in the footsteps of @Will and @JardyB10 who also both became blue rather early in their VHL tenures. He's been a consistently great GM for Quebec / Vancouver, an active member of the BOG, and most importantly a huge driving forced behind a massive resurgence of recruitment in the VHL. As much as I'd love to take all the credit my efforts to save the league from the darkness that was engulfing it a few short years ago would have been completely wasted if not for Beav's massive efforts on the recruitment front to keep the league's stock of young talent up and keep new members coming into the door every day. I only hope his successor in the recruitment crew can do as well of a job as we, the blues, steal him away to the position that quite frankly has been calling his name for a little while now. A small word of note as well. Not that this was a public job posting or anything but please know that other candidates were considered and us choosing Beav is not a mark against anyone else, simply a larger vote of confidence in his favour. Depending if / when Quik comes back this may not be the only blue team change and there will always be opportunities for those that want the chance at a commish spot to step up.

Hello @Members As some of you have likely noticed by now @Quik went on vacation and has simply fallen off the face of the earth, or at least the face of the VHL. In light of this the former blues and I have convened and decided that's likely time to add a new member to the Blue team to help lighten the load, especially going into the off-season. Quik will remain on board in the event of his return (at least for now) but in order to help keep the site running smoothly we would like to officially announce that @Beaviss is joining the blue team! At the current moment Beav will continue to oversee the @Recruitment Crew while he trains up a new head for it in addition to taking on his new commish role.