Molholt 2,185 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 VHL Magazine 274 - Dropbox Version VHL Magazine 274 - Issuu Version Dropbox is your standard version, Issuu allows you to "flip" through it. Tons of content this week, most of our writers are accounted for, including more from @Victor (2 in a row?!?!). Reflections on the All-star game changes from @sterling. TWO VHLM articles, that's right, two of them. So get into it VHLM guys. @Christmas and @ADwyer87 bringing you all of the VHLM action you could ever want, including an interview from the ever entertaining @KingRobbie. Check it out. DollarAndADream, fever95, eaglesfan036 and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted February 17, 2016 Senior Admin Share Posted February 17, 2016 Good edition I'll be back to share my meaningless thoughts with you all next week. Molholt and FacePuncher 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 565 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 In my case, yes they are Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,992 Posted February 17, 2016 Admin Share Posted February 17, 2016 Top edition all around, solid interviewing there by @ADwyer87 And I agree with kesler's article for a change. Rookie race too close to call and I don't fancy Riga given Stockholm's hot streak. So perhaps it is Riga who will be this season's underdog win since Stockholm is no longer the underdog. 1 minute ago, Daniel said: In my case, yes they are you say that but can probably walk into the VHL and perform at the level of established goalies. #badgoalies FacePuncher and Daniel 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 5,128 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Nice work gents Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,090 Posted February 17, 2016 Commissioner Share Posted February 17, 2016 You have Award dark horses listed as both the title of the VHLM spotlight and the interview with Robbie, just saying. I will say that goaltender's have seen a drop off in recent years. I don't know if it's just that scorers have gotten so much better or what. I think the major issue is that you can be a good scorer with only maxing out a few stats (Scoring, PH, Skating and Defense mostly) but to stop those scorers goalies realistically need to max out more (Rebound Control, Style Control, Hand Speed, Agility, Reaction Time and Size) and they start at a 5 point disadvantage. I guess you could argue that goalies have less to put points into and that's true but they have more when it comes to attributes that have a major impact. Just my $.02 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacePuncher 1,343 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 35 minutes ago, Victor said: Top edition all around, solid interviewing there by @ADwyer87 Thanks! More to come in next issue 6 minutes ago, Beketov said: You have Award dark horses listed as both the title of the VHLM spotlight and the interview with Robbie, just saying. My article title was 'Around the VHLM: Interview With VHLM First Star of the Week Sir William Covington III', in case you were wondering Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Victor moves back into #1 Commie in my book. Thanks for the shoutout @Victor Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Another week, another bashing from Chris. Point Taken. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Haha also, Riga allowed the third least GA all year and have to play a tighter defensive game? Jerrick Poole is a forward as well, great research. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,992 Posted February 17, 2016 Admin Share Posted February 17, 2016 I say Riga should channel the criticism into a playoff run for the ages. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacePuncher 1,343 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 @Molholt you sweetheart, putting a WBS Penguin on my article Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,604 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Great edition everyone I am scared to make a goalie with my next player because it seems so random if you do well or not Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Campbell shouldn't win the top goalie award and you'll know why in my future podcast Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 ^This is the reason the GM's forum voting is in place haha. Campbell leads in every category Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,992 Posted February 17, 2016 Admin Share Posted February 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Kendrick said: ^This is the reason the GM's forum voting is in place haha. Campbell leads in every category was that ever agreed on? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted February 17, 2016 Senior Admin Share Posted February 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, Victor said: was that ever agreed on? No. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Kendrick said: ^This is the reason the GM's forum voting is in place haha. Campbell leads in every category Yes, and the only category that matters is save pct. Campbell is the active goalie that received the less shots faced and obviously has the most stacked team of the league in front of him, offensively and defensively so again, how is it obvious ? I'm telling you what's obvious, my vote for Weinstein for top goalie Edited February 17, 2016 by boubabi Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 26 minutes ago, boubabi said: Yes, and the only category that matters is save pct. Campbell is the active goalie that received the less shots faced and obviously has the most stacked team of the league in front of him, offensively and defensively so again, how is it obvious ? I'm telling you what's obvious, my vote for Weinstein for top goalie Campbell leads in Wins, Shutouts, Save Percentage, GAA and anything else thats positive. Whats obvious is the hate on Campbell cause he left Stockholm. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Oh, if you want to think that, good for you. Glad you don't have to vote, because I think voters have to think beyond the stats a little bit more than you are doing. Edited February 17, 2016 by boubabi Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 1 minute ago, boubabi said: Oh, if you want to think that, good for you. Glad you don't have to vote, because I think voters have to think beyond the stats a little bit more than you are doing. Haha this guy. Let's all go look at previous voting years and see if he thought beyond haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I did actually. Wanna make things clearer for you ? I shall do this, I have time. The only individual stats that Campbell can control is pretty much the save pct. Wins, Shutouts and GAA are pretty much teams stats at that point. Guess what, Campbell has the Victory Cup in front of him. Even Okrantiz could had been decent in NY this year. Do you know what is true tho ? Weinstein played behind 3 computers players, 3 VHLM caliber players for more than half of the season, and still had .923 save PCT (.001 behind Campbell) and has faced 300 more shots during the season while playing behind a 235 tpe defensemen in Zhukenov. I don't expect you to change your mind, considering I know how critical thinking isn't your strength. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Haha this guy. 9 minutes ago, Kendrick said: Let's all go look at previous voting years and see if he thought beyond haha Do that plz Edited February 17, 2016 by boubabi Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 This just in: Carey Price - 44 Wins, 1.96 GAA, .933%, 9 SO, 1953 Shots Against Braden Holtby - 41 Wins, 2.22 GAA, .923%, 9 SO, 2044 Shots Against But, hey Holtby should've won over Price because he had more shots on him. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Oh right, please compare NHL stuff to VHL stuff Continue Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28291-edition-274-are-goalies-bad/#findComment-312571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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