eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Romo in December never fails. LOL COWBOYS TONY CHOKEMO JERRUH JONES Fire Tortorella 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-18203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 They averaged 7 yards per carry over 130 yards rushing and come forth quarter they still don't stop passing the ball Cowboys are funny. I don't even blame Romo their D let up 5 TDs on all 5 2nd half posessions and are on pace for the worst D in NFL history. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-18207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Wow. I never expected at half we would be coming back! Thanks Tony! However, Mike you said the Dallas D is horrible? How about the Packers D. That is shit coverage on every play. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-18213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Kendrick I won't deny letting up 26 points in 1 half isn't bad Cowboys do have a good offense though. When I'm talking about the Cowboys D I'm talking about actual stats though if you didn't know take a look at this: 426.8 YPG Worst in NFL 6.2 YP/Play 2nd Worst in NFL 44% 3rd Down 2nd Worst in NFL vs pass 4163 yards 297.4/game Worst in NFL They were on pace to be the worst D in NFL history which was broken last season by the Saints but before that there was a 31 season break. This Dallas Defense is not just me or someone randomly saying they are bad they are literally one of the worst defenses in NFL history. That's why I don't hate on Romo as much though he does make a ton of bad mistakes and has an awful win record in December. In NFL history though he has the most 4th quarter comeback wins since 2011 and the best 4th Quarter QB Rating though that might have gone down quite a bit after today. He carries that team when they win and does do some bad things but with that D its not his fault they are losing so much. Edited December 16, 2013 by Mike Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-18261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Kendrick I won't deny letting up 26 points in 1 half isn't bad Cowboys do have a good offense though. When I'm talking about the Cowboys D I'm talking about actual stats though if you didn't know take a look at this: 426.8 YPG Worst in NFL 6.2 YP/Play 2nd Worst in NFL 44% 3rd Down 2nd Worst in NFL vs pass 4163 yards 297.4/game Worst in NFL They were on pace to be the worst D in NFL history which was broken last season by the Saints but before that there was a 31 season break. This Dallas Defense is not just me or someone randomly saying they are bad they are literally one of the worst defenses in NFL history. That's why I don't hate on Romo as much though he does make a ton of bad mistakes and has an awful win record in December. In NFL history though he has the most 4th quarter comeback wins since 2011 and the best 4th Quarter QB Rating though that might have gone down quite a bit after today. He carries that team when they win and does do some bad things but with that D its not his fault they are losing so much. Oh I know they got a horrible defence but keep in mind we have never been able to stop the ball on the ground or through the air. Dom Capers has great blitzing schemes….but outside of that he relies on the big play too much instead of the fundamentals of a playbook. Our safeties never know where to play and our corner-backs have to have double coverage to cover a receiver every time. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-18273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 My roommate is a Cowboys fan whoever #38 it he always seems to be getting owned. If the Bills Don't get Byrd into a long term contract this year the Cowboys should definitely try to bring him in. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-18279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 My roommate is a Cowboys fan whoever #38 it he always seems to be getting owned. If the Bills Don't get Byrd into a long term contract this year the Cowboys should definitely try to bring him in. Not if the Eagles get him first! Also, the Cowboys will have nearly no cap room next year. Fire Tortorella 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-18848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 5 plays, 65 yards, 32 SECONDS. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-20127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) Bills win, Bills win, OMG the Bills win i so hope Dolphins miss playoffs now. Also I got a message from bleacher report saying Freddie Jackson played today with broken ribs 111 yards rushing and a TD. Edited December 23, 2013 by Mike Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-20185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,282 Posted December 23, 2013 Head Moderator Share Posted December 23, 2013 Packers lose, Lions lose. If the Bears win tonight we can beat Green Bay next week with our backups Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-20192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Packers lose, Lions lose. If the Bears win tonight we can beat Green Bay next week with our backups Oh you son of a gun haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-20225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Packers lose, Lions lose. If the Bears win tonight we can beat Green Bay next week with our backups Well... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-20285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Packers lose, Lions lose. If the Bears win tonight we can beat Green Bay next week with our backups Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-20298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Oh no. Next week will be a battle for the ages I think. If we had won today it would have been nice. But fuck! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-20302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,282 Posted December 23, 2013 Head Moderator Share Posted December 23, 2013 If would incur a conditional statement, but solid win nonetheless Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-20310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Jon Kitna: 2008- Part of an 0-16 team, starting QB to begin the season before injury 2009- Doesn't play a down 2012- Retires from the NFL, becomes a math teacher and high school football coach Today- Signed as backup QB for the Dallas Cowboys Uhhh... what's wrong with this picture Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Jon Kitna: 2008- Part of an 0-16 team, starting QB to begin the season before injury 2009- Doesn't play a down 2012- Retires from the NFL, becomes a math teacher and high school football coach Today- Signed as backup QB for the Dallas Cowboys Uhhh... what's wrong with this picture Jerruh Jones? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 The reason is he already knows the offense and they don't expect him to actually play. He will likely be very helpful for Orton if the Cowboys end up winning this week. Any other QB they brought in other than the guy Cleveland(I think) signed would have to learn their offense. They don't have time to teach someone from scratch and Kitna was never a great QB but he did it for so long. When you do something since the age of 12 or whatever more than 20 years even if you take a break you can still do it to some extent. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Also keep in mind after all those years he would know what he has to do, just throw to Bryant, Witten and Austin and he can at least perform at a average rate. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Yeah, I think Kitna was brought in because he knows the offense, and you can't teach any new quarterback the offense within a week. Really, if Orton got hurt the Cowboys would lose no matter who they signed as backup. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.sniffuM 1,741 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Kitna proved he could be effective in his most recent NFL action. As long as he stayed in good shape, given his knowledge of the Cowboys' offense, he could be decent if the team needed. Keep in mind Josh McCown was coaching high school last year and his best year is not nearly on par with Kitna's. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Kitna proved he could be effective in his most recent NFL action. As long as he stayed in good shape, given his knowledge of the Cowboys' offense, he could be decent if the team needed. Keep in mind Josh McCown was coaching high school last year and his best year is not nearly on par with Kitna's. Kitna is also 42 years old and will have had 1 week of practice with the team. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,282 Posted December 26, 2013 Head Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2013 Kitna proved he could be effective in his most recent NFL action. As long as he stayed in good shape, given his knowledge of the Cowboys' offense, he could be decent if the team needed. Keep in mind Josh McCown was coaching high school last year and his best year is not nearly on par with Kitna's. Which one would that be, because I would argue that McCown's statistics this year are better than any of Kitna's individual seasons... Most notably his 2010 season with Dallas, which is his closest to McCown's current 109 QBR. Kitna also led a team to 0-16 lol. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.sniffuM 1,741 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Kitna is also 42 years old and will have had 1 week of practice with the team. Which is why I said that it's a decent signing for an emergency QB if he's in good shape. Would it be better if they brought in a guy in slightly better physical shape (because no QB who's been an FA all year is gonna be in good throwing shape right now) but absolutely no knowledge of the playbook coming in? Which one would that be, because I would argue that McCown's statistics this year are better than any of Kitna's individual seasons... Most notably his 2010 season with Dallas, which is his closest to McCown's current 109 QBR. Kitna also led a team to 0-16 lol. Sorry my post was unclear, I meant his best year going into this year. Jon Kitna also had a grand total of 4 starts in the 0-16 season before getting hurt, but that's beside the point. frescoelmo 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,817 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 ....absolutely no knowledge of the playbook coming in? What playbook? It consists of throw to Dez, throw to Witten, hand off to Demarco. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/5/#findComment-21696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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