Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,282 Posted August 22, 2014 Head Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2014 If Vasteras is moved, we can put the past behind us and all hate on the defunct city together. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball 453 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I'd play there. From reading everyone else's posts, maybe a rebranding would be the best route. Keep the team in Vasteras but revamp the mascot/logo/color scheme etc. That makes the team seem "new" and solves all the problems everyone seems to have with them. It's what I did white the Philadelphia Jets in SBA and it worked out pretty well. No one holds the past of the franchise against you anymore lol The main problem is the team being in Vasteras so that would need to change too. Now Pro Vasty Squad don't bite my head off, I'm just explaining it to the new guy. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,015 Posted August 22, 2014 Admin Share Posted August 22, 2014 The logo's great, like all our logos. Wtf is a Vasteras though. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 The logo's great, like all our logos. Wtf is a Vasteras though. While I (and some others) know European geography and realize it's nowhere near the same, I can imagine some members (especially some members from my own xenophobic country of USA) asking wtf a Riga or Davos was as well. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,015 Posted August 22, 2014 Admin Share Posted August 22, 2014 Yeah. The thing that stuck for me in memory is some new member doing a MS on where Euro teams were (this was in like S11) and he guessed that Vasteras was in Portugal. And honestly, as a new member, I kind of assumed Vasteras was somewhere in the Iberian peninsula too. And I live in Europe. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,194 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 an Amstel Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo 795 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 And honestly [...] I kind of assumed Vasteras was somewhere in the Iberian peninsula too. And I live in Europe. wat Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo 795 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 an Amstel is a bad beer Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,015 Posted August 22, 2014 Admin Share Posted August 22, 2014 wat If you don't know European hockey (and I don't), Vasteras is nowhere. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo 795 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If you don't know European hockey (and I don't), Vasteras is nowhere. I don't know it either, but that name is so Scandinavic. Ninetyfourgoalie 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,015 Posted August 22, 2014 Admin Share Posted August 22, 2014 I don't know it either, but that name is so Scandinavic. Depends on which syllable you put emphasis on. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Depends on which syllable you put emphasis on. Victor's right, it could be Eastern European. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,015 Posted August 22, 2014 Admin Share Posted August 22, 2014 Victor's right, it could be Eastern European.Not quite the geographic location I was going for but I'll take your support. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Not quite the geographic location I was going for but I'll take your support. Well it could be Polish if you look at it. When you say it though it can sound Czech or even some small town in Russia. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo 795 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Depends on which syllable you put emphasis on. True - what I wanted to say was that the name hints to Northern Europe. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 True - what I wanted to say was that the name hints to Northern Europe. Your face hints to Northern Europe. #rekt Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I don't know where Riga or Davos are. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanesEuntDomus 442 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 A lot of you are making the argument that getting a good GM is more Important than changing the team brand to get rid of negative connotations, which is a fair point. But why not just do both and help out the new GM with a clean slate, as long as that is what he wants as well and not just something that is forces upon him by the BoG? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball 453 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 A lot of you are making the argument that getting a good GM is more Important than changing the team brand to get rid of negative connotations, which is a fair point. But why not just do both and help out the new GM with a clean slate, as long as that is what he wants as well and not just something that is forces upon him by the BoG? Take your level headedness and wishful thinking out of here. The only way to get things done is to insult eachother and let chaos ensue. stevo 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Only way i would support vasty moving is if all European teams moved to na Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,447 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 We moved a team from Stockholm to Riga, so I think the "Vasteras just isn't a good city for a team" argument is thrown out the window. A lot of you are making the argument that getting a good GM is more Important than changing the team brand to get rid of negative connotations, which is a fair point. But why not just do both and help out the new GM with a clean slate, as long as that is what he wants as well and not just something that is forces upon him by the BoG? Yeah, all this debate and it very well might be the case that boubabi is in favor of relocating Vasteras. While that decision wouldn't be 100% his to make, it seems that if he wanted to do so, there is enough league support that it would probably be allowed. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 2,000 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 A lot of you are making the argument that getting a good GM is more Important than changing the team brand to get rid of negative connotations, which is a fair point. But why not just do both and help out the new GM with a clean slate, as long as that is what he wants as well and not just something that is forces upon him by the BoG? Pretty sure that's been the main dialogue here. Is that what he wants? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,447 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Pretty sure that's been the main dialogue here. Is that what he wants? I think he just wants what is best for the team, and unfortunately that might be relocation, because the guys who currently say they won't play for Vasteras might be willing to if they relocate, but the guys who say they don't want Vasteras to relocate will likely still be willing to play for the team if they do, because they are sensible people. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I refuse to play for Vasteras if they move! Rawr Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/11463-vasteras-player-poll/page/5/#findComment-111808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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