Gustav 6,406 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 It's been known for a long time that the VHLM is characterized by an extreme boom-bust cycle which often rewards teams for tanking--and subsequently stacking up multiple drafts' worth of picks at once--for targeted success in select seasons. It's also been almost a general consensus around the league that this isn't great for the environment of the VHLM and its (supposed) focus on player development. Proposed solutions to this over the years have included restrictions on holding picks to banning trading of picks entirely to changing the way the VHLM works to eliminate the draft altogether. Currently, VHLM rules allow for a maximum of three picks to be held in each of the first two rounds of any given draft. It's obvious that this is far too relaxed--so, we've got some news for you involving stricter restrictions on draft picks held by VHLM teams. Specifically: No team may hold more than two picks in each of the first two rounds of any VHLM draft. For example, a team may have up to two 1st-round picks and two 2nd-round picks, but no more. Each team must hold a minimum of four picks in the first four rounds of any draft. Each team must hold at least one pick in either the first or second round of any draft. This change is effective as of the S87 draft. Picks have already been moved for S86 such that this would not work for next season. We hope this does its job in ensuring that each VHLM team is able to maintain a reasonably competitive environment, whether buying or selling. Also--we hope we aren't just here to crack down. More freedoms to come in some form at some point @VHLM GM @VHLM Commissioner JardyB10, MubbleFubbles, McWolf and 15 others 11 7 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcolethetitan 921 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Good rule change. diacope 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,401 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Ban draft pick trading next qripll, Viper, Lemorse7 and 2 others 2 1 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ricer13 2,796 Posted September 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 20, 2022 Love to see this change! Nice work you guys. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemorse7 1,014 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Love it Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enorama 2,038 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, Gustav said: banning trading of picks entirely COWARDS BarzalGoat, ColeMrtz, N0HBDY and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,564 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 will this extend to the loophole where teams just trade their first or second round selections away right away instead of trading the pick before the draft? Gaikoku-hito 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,406 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, Nykonax said: will this extend to the loophole where teams just trade their first or second round selections away right away instead of trading the pick before the draft? That was addressed a while ago (not sure how officially) by what was more or less "don't do this, sincerely, commissioners" and that will continue to be the case. ColeMrtz and Nykonax 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Spartan said: Ban draft pick trading next just ban the whole draft ColeMrtz 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, McWolf said: just ban the whole draft and trading Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, McWolf said: and trading and waivers Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v.2 1,406 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 abolish the E Grape 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon 591 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Gustav said: It's been known for a long time that the VHLM is characterized by an extreme boom-bust cycle which often rewards teams for tanking--and subsequently stacking up multiple drafts' worth of picks at once--for targeted success in select seasons. It's also been almost a general consensus around the league that this isn't great for the environment of the VHLM and its (supposed) focus on player development. Proposed solutions to this over the years have included restrictions on holding picks to banning trading of picks entirely to changing the way the VHLM works to eliminate the draft altogether. Currently, VHLM rules allow for a maximum of three picks to be held in each of the first two rounds of any given draft. It's obvious that this is far too relaxed--so, we've got some news for you involving stricter restrictions on draft picks held by VHLM teams. Specifically: No team may hold more than two picks in each of the first two rounds of any VHLM draft. For example, a team may have up to two 1st-round picks and two 2nd-round picks, but no more. Each team must hold a minimum of four picks in the first four rounds of any draft. Each team must hold at least one pick in either the first or second round of any draft. This change is effective as of the S87 draft. Picks have already been moved for S86 such that this would not work for next season. We hope this does its job in ensuring that each VHLM team is able to maintain a reasonably competitive environment, whether buying or selling. Also--we hope we aren't just here to crack down. More freedoms to come in some form at some point @VHLM GM @VHLM Commissioner Great Change Fellas! diacope 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shindigs 1,771 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Good change, I assume this is at time of draft. Not just a general "you may never drop below 4 picks in any future draft" deal. Cause that would really hamstring your ability to stay consistently decent by leveraging future picks, but only enough of them that you can still refill in time for the draft. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom 1,445 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 This is almost as complicated as Monahan’s trade conditions. Just ban pick trading at this point Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,564 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Shindigs said: Good change, I assume this is at time of draft. Not just a general "you may never drop below 4 picks in any future draft" deal. Cause that would really hamstring your ability to stay consistently decent by leveraging future picks, but only enough of them that you can still refill in time for the draft. what happens if you don't Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v.2 1,406 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Nice change greens. Should keep the M fun and fresh. diacope 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shindigs 1,771 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nykonax said: what happens if you don't The meme answer is that you get docked draft picks. Nykonax, Alex and Gaikoku-hito 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,401 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Shindigs said: Good change, I assume this is at time of draft. Not just a general "you may never drop below 4 picks in any future draft" deal. Cause that would really hamstring your ability to stay consistently decent by leveraging future picks, but only enough of them that you can still refill in time for the draft. @Gustav and I have discussed this since it's a fair point and we want there to be as much flexibility as possible. Our main concern with only requiring the minimums to be met at the time of the draft is that a GM will end up in a significantly unfavorable position that will end up harming their team further - the opposite of our intent with this change. For that reason, we are adding the following addendum (wording may change in rulebook for clarity): - All teams must be compliant with draft pick rules and restrictions by the TDL prior to the respective draft. (Example, HOU has until the S86 TDL to be compliant for the S87 Draft) This should allow teams to dabble with future picks should they choose to do so, while giving them plenty of time to meet the updated draft pick rules. We hope this provides more flexibility for teams trying to make trades and adds some spice to trade deadlines as a side benefit. Shindigs 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,401 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Forgot to tag @VHLM GM for the post right above this AJW 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Janser 2,167 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 15 hours ago, Shindigs said: The meme answer is that you get docked draft picks. ah like the European Union who hands out fines to countries who are in the Eurozone but not compliant with the overall debts... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spade18 1,305 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just give me all the draft picks, and I will make selections for all the teams and ensure parity (for the right price) Dil 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/127541-draft-pick-holding-rule-update/#findComment-951807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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