Garsh 1,212 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Can I have an automated program click the pension and practice facility buttons? solas, rory, Triller and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triller 1,764 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 10:43 PM, Spartan said: I mean we can only use free web tools unless the league wants to invest in a forum add-on. But yes, I imagine the burden will likely fall onto the graphic maker to supply proof. Expand All good, figured I would inquire. None of us are experts in AI as far as I know so we can all stumble forward in the dark together. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 2,039 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I upscale all the time. I don't think the issue is using programs that enhance an image but one that creates it in the first place. I save all my files but I don't think many ppl think my content is generated. Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triller 1,764 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) On 11/19/2023 at 12:32 AM, Steve said: I upscale all the time. I don't think the issue is using programs that enhance an image but one that creates it in the first place. I save all my files but I don't think many ppl think my content is generated. Expand Yes, but depending on the detection tools I was curious if it would flag regardless. Same with writing something and sending it through an AI. It will enhance what you wrote but would that be detected, likely. Edited November 19, 2023 by Triller Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 2,039 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 12:37 AM, Triller said: Yes, but depending on the detection tools I was curious if it would flag regardless. Same with writing something and sending it through an AI. It will enhance what you wrote but would that be detected, likely. Expand I really don't like where AI is headed. It has ruined a few content creators that I know who used to be fantastic at photomanipulation but are all into AI now. I refuse to go down that rabbit hole. I enjoy making graphics too much to just enter enough prompts until you get something you want. I didn't even know there was a AI that writes shit for you. Seems like the prompts for that would take as long as just doing the task. solas, Gustav and Rin 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,284 Posted November 19, 2023 Commissioner Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 10:04 PM, hylands said: gonna start streaming all of my point tasks for verification Expand Hey if simmers have to do it Also just to mention it to quell some of the GFX questions in here: Yeah if you use AI to generate like an image of a player instead of finding an NHL player image or something that's fine so one as you put the regular amount of work in after. At that point you're just using a "fake" image instead of a real one which is fine in my books. You will just need to have proof of the original image and what you did in case an updater asks which they might with how obvious some AI ends up looking. Subject056 and Triller 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 9,069 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Well, looks like I'll be a welfare guy now! Subject056 and twists 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triller 1,764 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 1:09 AM, Steve said: I really don't like where AI is headed. It has ruined a few content creators that I know who used to be fantastic at photomanipulation but are all into AI now. I refuse to go down that rabbit hole. I enjoy making graphics too much to just enter enough prompts until you get something you want. I didn't even know there was a AI that writes shit for you. Seems like the prompts for that would take as long as just doing the task. Expand It is inevitable regardless. My industry will have almost all areas taken over in the next 5 years so I need to know what I am dealing with and how to pivot and find those hard to replace positions. It will never replace what you do personally but professionally you can't avoid it. Chat GPT is a basic version of text generation and it could already replace a lot of positions. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 2,039 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I like you Triller even though you have an AI avatar..........MUHAHAHAHA Subject056 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triller 1,764 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 1:37 AM, Steve said: I like you Triller even though you have an AI avatar..........MUHAHAHAHA Expand Lol I did change to one on Discord! I love messing with different prompts to see what can be generated. Future job might be an AI wrangler! I just feed AI images and prompts for large film companies to generate the looks they want. Steve 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,284 Posted November 19, 2023 Commissioner Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 1:43 AM, Triller said: Lol I did change to one on Discord! I love messing with different prompts to see what can be generated. Future job might be an AI wrangler! I just feed AI images and prompts for large film companies to generate the looks they want. Expand I was editing a comedy sketch this week that was meant to kinda emulate a cheesy government PSA with just slow zooms on photos right. To really emphasize the ridiculousness we decided to just AI generate the photos so I did that, got the 1024x1024 ones, and then ran them through photoshop to AI enlarge them. It worked surprisingly, and kinda terrifyingly, well. So this was for "smoking kills" and this was for "don't eat ketchup chips on a white couch" Like it's obvious they are AI and there's definitely some weirdness to clean up (his hand and the clock especially) but they didn't take long to make at all and it was a cool proof of concept for the kind of stuff you can make if a bit of uncanny valley is fine. Subject056 and Triller 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Josh 1,718 Posted November 19, 2023 Commissioner Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 8:33 PM, Knight said: So any form of AI assistance is strictly prohibited? Expand In my mind it's a bit more nuanced than that, using it generate content from an idea is a no though. There's a difference between asking your friend to help with a question in your homework vs asking your friend to do your homework. This is new territory for sim leagues to deal with and I'm sure they'll be more adjustments along the way. On 11/18/2023 at 10:58 PM, Garsh said: Can I have an automated program click the pension and practice facility buttons? Expand I'm sure you could figure this one out in like 5 minutes with autohotkey. Don't count this as my blessing though lol. Knight 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triller 1,764 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) On 11/19/2023 at 2:03 AM, Beketov said: I was editing a comedy sketch this week that was meant to kinda emulate a cheesy government PSA with just slow zooms on photos right. To really emphasize the ridiculousness we decided to just AI generate the photos so I did that, got the 1024x1024 ones, and then ran them through photoshop to AI enlarge them. It worked surprisingly, and kinda terrifyingly, well. So this was for "smoking kills" and this was for "don't eat ketchup chips on a white couch" Like it's obvious they are AI and there's definitely some weirdness to clean up (his hand and the clock especially) but they didn't take long to make at all and it was a cool proof of concept for the kind of stuff you can make if a bit of uncanny valley is fine. Expand Yeah this is really cool! Obviously the possibilities are endless and for every person who is weary of this there is another who finally has a way to visualize their ideas. Not everyone has that ability. When this comes to 3D and I can describe a chair that would have taken me a few days to a week to model, UV and texture, that is when things get crazy! Edited November 19, 2023 by Triller Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose87 389 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 AI... what does the A stand for? Garsh 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 9,069 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Alien Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garsh 1,212 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 2:17 AM, Josh said: I'm sure you could figure this one out in like 5 minutes with autohotkey. Don't count this as my blessing though lol. Expand Thanks for having faith in me to figure it out Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twists 430 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 9:53 PM, Spartan said: Not speaking for V.2, but there will never be a tool that can tell us that something is clearly based on AI or just a tool used for something smaller. I think we can always have these individual conversations on a person by person basis, but we can always investigate the graphics makers and ask them to send us raw files or original graphics to prove their individual efforts. There's no clear cut answer here and it'll be based on updater judgment to reach out and investigate. Expand Hey how does it feel to not be Head of PT? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twists 430 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Also, can we just ban media spots? Nobody except maybe 3 people enjoy writing a weekly VHL essay Subject056 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Janser 2,321 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 5:00 AM, twists said: Also, can we just ban media spots? Nobody except maybe 3 people enjoy writing a weekly VHL essay Expand Speak for yourself... i do not enjoy creating graphics nor podcasting... i am disabled when it comes to gfx, have a radio face and a book voice... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. Zach Enron 85 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I expect the same from the staff aswell, no AI helping with decisions etc. We will be watching Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,756 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 4:57 AM, twists said: Hey how does it feel to not be Head of PT? Expand Good, there's another voice in the process to help finalize updating decisions. I'm happy with the hire and already like the discussions had so far. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,473 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Does Topaz Labs count? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theory 17 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Lol does not apply to me though I do sometimes regurgitate talking points since I'm not as familiar with Hockey IRL Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik 5 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Man, I don't even know how to use an AI to update for me yet and it's already illegal??? v.2 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaikoku-hito 2,321 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/142364-ai-and-point-tasks/page/2/#findComment-1004645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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