Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) So after the trade deadline and well before it, the Buffalo Sabres were pinpointed as a team that is purposely tanking to acquire the best selection in the upcoming 2015 NHL Entry Draft. As many of you know the odds are still stacked against a team even if they do finish with the worst record in the NHL. Their is an 80% chance that the Sabres will not get the selection if they finish last overall, simply based on the lottery format. However newer publications from newspapers, media outlets and journalists have on record that Tim Murray (Buffalo GM) has a tanking purpose in place. Murray has gone on record to say that he "thinks about McDavid in his sleep and what it would mean for their franchise". McDavid has gone on record well before the start of his OHL Erie Otters season as to say "if I a team is purposely losing to acquire the chance to draft me, I want little to do with them". It has been said by athletes in the past and even in the sport of hockey that if teams tank, they want nothing to do with the franchise. So as a hockey fan I ask, do you agree with tanking in the NHL? Should their be punishment if you don't agree with it? *Paid for by the Activity Discussion Generating Team Edited March 31, 2015 by Kendrick Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Tanking is acceptable, but the top 3, maybe top 5 picks should all be a lottery with the non-playoff teams, with a slight edge to those finishing worse. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,130 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I am fucking ALL FOR THIS SHIT. BOOM 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,212 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Tanking is acceptable, but the top 3, maybe top 5 picks should all be a lottery with the non-playoff teams, with a slight edge to those finishing worse. Wait isn't your team tanking. I smell some bias. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 My stance: I don't like tanking, it's not something a prospect likes to see or a fan. That being said under the current rules it will happen. Last 5 teams should have a 20% chance at it, somewhat makes tanking not worth it considering you have a 1 in 5 shot at it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,130 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Wait isn't your team tanking. I smell some bias. No, we just suck. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,899 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 No, we just suck. So now you are on Riga? Is this a hint you are leaving via FA...... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Wait isn't your team tanking. I smell some bias. No, we just suck. What he said. We just suck. I mean, we have Voracek, who's either 1 or 2 in points, Giroux, who has the most points in the league in the past 5 seasons, and Mason, who's been a top 10 goalie since he's come to the Flyers. We just have nothing on D besides Streit and somewhat MDZ, and our bottom 6 is lacking. I think we're 1 middle-6 winger and a couple defensemen away from seriously competing, but I definitely think it's likely that we make the playoffs next season. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 So now you are on Riga? Is this a hint you are leaving via FA...... NHL, not VHL. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Okay Buffalo has a bad team, why should they try and compete? Lol why not just rebuild? They are doing a good thing rebuilding and getting picks. I remember at the deadline when they traded their starter (sorry I forgot who, they have had so many goalies go through the place in the last few seasons) away for a pick and a worse goalie they were saying they were tanking. Ehh they got a pick that useless to them, so what. If McDavid doesnt wanna go their, then they fucked up but still they have Reinhart as a number one center with Girgensons/Hodgson so maybe getting Eichel would be better anyways. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,899 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 NHL, not VHL. Shhh lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,758 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Doomsday 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Okay Buffalo has a bad team, why should they try and compete? Lol why not just rebuild? They are doing a good thing rebuilding and getting picks. I remember at the deadline when they traded their starter (sorry I forgot who, they have had so many goalies go through the place in the last few seasons) away for a pick and a worse goalie they were saying they were tanking. Ehh they got a pick that useless to them, so what. If McDavid doesnt wanna go their, then they fucked up but still they have Reinhart as a number one center with Girgensons/Hodgson so maybe getting Eichel would be better anyways. Hodgson is supposed to impress people? The guy has been horrible. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Hodgson is supposed to impress people? The guy has been horrible. Hodgson seems to have gotten progressively worse every season. He went a little uphill in his development in Vancouver, left....had a decent season in Buffalo, while still been horrible defensively, but the offensive numbers were somewhat there. Now the past couple of seasons he has no offense or defense. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Lol if Hodgson was on any other team I am sure he would be doing better. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Lol if Hodgson was on any other team I am sure he would be doing better. Not with his inability to defend his own end. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,157 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Sherman Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 5,119 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 This is the risk you run in a sport that's set up to reward failure. Of course teams will want to tank. #BlameTheSystem Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIM-11 134 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Not a fan of it, but not a big deal and the new lottery rules next year will totally render the strategy useless. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Fan of it and I wish the Avs started to tank about 2 months ago instead of heating up. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-198706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) The goal of any sports franchise should be to win the cup. If a team can no longer do so in a given season, it is not only acceptable, but the only correct course of action to perform in such a way as to best set themselves up to do so in later seasons, including via improvement of draft pick. I am not only for tanking, I am openly against competing after mathematical elimination. I think it is the dumbest thing a team can possibly do. Edited April 12, 2015 by diamond_ace Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-202247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanesEuntDomus 442 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 The goal of any sports franchise should be to win the cup. If a team can no longer do so in a given season, it is not only acceptable, but the only correct course of action to perform in such a way as to best set themselves up to do so in later seasons, including via improvement of draft pick. I am not only for tanking, I am openly against competing after mathematical elimination. I think it is the dumbest thing a team can possibly do. That. When you put a system in place where finishing 30th is better for your teams future than finishing 20th, then you can't blame teams who are out of the playoff race for aiming at last place. Also I think it's pretty stupid that people are almost exclusively pointing fingers at us for tanking this season when Arizona has been just as much as a perpetrator, in fact we played considerably better than them down the stretch and almost. But I think this will be the last season in a long time where we will have this discussion anyway, with the new lottery system coming up (and the fact that there isn't a McEichel every year), finishing dead last will be a lot less attractive for teams in the future. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-202266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Said the Sabres fan Just kidding aha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-202268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,946 Posted April 12, 2015 Admin Share Posted April 12, 2015 25% chance for everyone! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/18806-tanking-poll/#findComment-202273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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