scoop 3,426 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Hasn't this happened before where Mike became GM of a team as a draftee? Pretty sure Riga was forced to use a 2nd round pick in his draft to acquire him. Toronto shouldn't get anything and Seattle should lose a 1st, in my opinion. Yes it has. It was pretty stupid then that they only had to give up a second, and it's even worse that this time they are giving up just a third. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk 1,298 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Yes it has. It was pretty stupid then that they only had to give up a second, and it's even worse that this time they are giving up just a third. shieettt I went 5th overall that draft.. highest I've gone is third! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 shieettt I went 5th overall that draft.. highest I've gone is third! ur 1st oa in my heart Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk 1,298 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 ur 1st oa in my heart oh who's 2nd Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,426 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 oh who's 2nd also you!! Munk 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Or Mia Malkova it depends on my mood. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk 1,298 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Or Mia Malkova it depends on my mood. Wow.. I graciously accept your compliment and raise you one of my own. You're fat. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,598 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Wow.. I graciously accept your compliment and raise you one of my own. You're fat. kesler? Sixersfan594 and Munk 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,426 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Wow.. I graciously accept your compliment and raise you one of my own. You're fat. foubabi Sixersfan594 and Munk 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Or Mia Malkova it depends on my mood. babe, also let us all just remember this is not higgins fault. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk 1,298 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 babe, also let us all just remember this is not higgins fault. cool like you even know who we are talking about, and if you do I'm reporting you you twelve year old twat. Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Wow.. I graciously accept your compliment and raise you one of my own. You're fat. Thank you, thank you in my village, it means that I'm a good hunter. I can feed all the tribe. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 cool like you even know who we are talking about, and if you do I'm reporting you you twelve year old twat. 2 wrds mia khalifa Munk 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk 1,298 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Thank you, thank you in my village, it means that I'm a good hunter. I can feed all the tribe. It..it can't be.. Fadda? Is that you? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Munk 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I'm all for fair compensation and the whole third for the rights for me does kind of seem like rubbing salt into an open wound. The truth of the matter though is Seattle has no draft picks and other teams have acquired GMs for little compensation as well. Say you sign a player via free agency then name him GM where's the fairness there? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,745 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I didn't have an issue(and who gives a fuck if I did?) but I was confused about this when it was posted. I have since re-read your retirement thread and get it now. Good luck. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I'm all for fair compensation and the whole third for the rights for me does kind of seem like rubbing salt into an open wound. The truth of the matter though is Seattle has no draft picks and other teams have acquired GMs for little compensation as well. Say you sign a player via free agency then name him GM where's the fairness there? If a player is a free agent they are free to do what they please. How is that unfair? Teams lose players to free agency all the time, even key players. It makes no difference what that player goes on to do within the new team since they left their previous team according to the rules. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 438 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 And Mike's player retired so how is this unfair Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 If a player is a free agent they are free to do what they please. How is that unfair? Teams lose players to free agency all the time, even key players. It makes no difference what that player goes on to do within the new team since they left their previous team according to the rules. And Toronto lost Mike to retirement, so why does it really matter? Toronto isn't losing anything they aren't already losing. I'm so confused as to how this is an issue or why Seattle would need to pay anything for someone who is retired. He is done and gone right? That was his last season? So he doesn't have a player and isn't on a team - so why would he need to be traded for? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagger 2,722 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) This is interesting, it will probably end up as it's being laid out here, which is inconsequential considering there's not enough players for a third round, but I'm interested to see if some of the reaction changes any of these plans. The only point that I'd bring up is that the argument of "Seattle doesn't have any draft picks" isn't true. I don't have an opinion on how this should be dealt with as it means nothing to me, but considering Season 45 picks were traded just hours after the conclusion of the Season 42 finals, surely the Bears are in possession of Season 46 picks at this point? Edited June 23, 2015 by YEAH! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) If a player is a free agent they are free to do what they please. How is that unfair? Teams lose players to free agency all the time, even key players. It makes no difference what that player goes on to do within the new team since they left their previous team according to the rules. That is true but its a scenario that can be created or exploited to bring in a GM for free. It shouldn't be some franchises get GMs for free and others pay hefty prices. At the same time though some players get traded a couple seasons before they take over as GM for say multiple firsts. It's a delicate situation and there's been no 1 right answer. We also both no free agency isn't generally an equal playing field. Edited June 23, 2015 by Mike Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,658 Posted June 23, 2015 Moderator Share Posted June 23, 2015 This goes back to my point, why must a GM have their player on their own team only? The only other reason before was that GM players could hold out against other teams to force trades or whatnot or a team could hold a GM hostage through their player. But honestly if stuff like this pops up, how is it any different? We should do away with the whole GM player on same team rule. Molholt 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 FA is a bad way to get GMs as well in my opinion. It has elements of tampering, especially if discussions are ongoing prior to that player hitting free agency. There should be some sort of committee overseeing transitions, because, as Mike said, sometimes teams get free pieces added to help their team (Seattle just won a championship, remember) while others have to pay a price. Ideally, GM transition happens within the same team and doesn't help or hurt the team except from a management perspective. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Redo everything let jala take over Seattle and I'll recreate for Toronto. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/21199-seator-s43-off-season/page/2/#findComment-231362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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