FacePuncher 1,343 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 1 hour ago, FueledByRamen said: Montreal trades Jarred Tinordi to Arizona for John Scott and possibly, Stefan Elliott. Is this a fucking joke, Bergevin? Watch Tinordi become a fucking monster under a team without any pressure like Arizona. Full trade is: Nashville gets Stefan Elliot Arizona gets Jarred Tinordi and Stefan Fournier Montreal gets John Scott and Victor Bartley Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,897 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 So disappointed with Bergevin/Therrien. Makes no sense. Drop Carr and Andrighetto. Call up De la Rose. Then trade Tinordi (who never really got a fair shake) for an ECHL calibre player and an AHL Defender. Good.... Ahma 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 you guys got an all-star captain what are you talking about thats amazing! and you just gave up Tinordi? wow. what a steal. FacePuncher 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Doesn't make much sense, maybe he isn't the whiz that people are saying he is. John Scott will be the captain for Pacific still as I've read, if you are voted in on one team it is because of that division/conference (this is a funny case for that) but he still captains them. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 its funny the nhl lets the people speak and they have spoken but they dont like whats being said. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 If he was on the Habs he'd be eligible, but now he has been sent down to the AHL. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,897 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 26 minutes ago, Kendrick said: Doesn't make much sense, maybe he isn't the whiz that people are saying he is. John Scott will be the captain for Pacific still as I've read, if you are voted in on one team it is because of that division/conference (this is a funny case for that) but he still captains them. Bergevin? Not sure why people have ever thought he is a "whiz". To me he is very safe and generally makes solid minor moves but really who has he acquired? Petry was a good move but other than that, it has all been very minor. The Vanek deal was okay but it didn't really work out of course. At the end of the day he just seems too in bed with Therrien at this point and is afraid to make any significant move. 36 minutes ago, StevenStamkos91 said: you guys got an all-star captain what are you talking about thats amazing! and you just gave up Tinordi? wow. what a steal. Original comment. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,897 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Montreal Adds: Jacob De La Rose: 2 Goals, 9 Points in 24 Games (AHL) John Scott: 0 Goals, 1 Point in 11 Games (NHL) Victor Bartley: 0 Goals, 1 Point in 15 Games (AHL/NHL) Montreal Moves: Daniel Carr to AHL: 13 Goals, 24 Points in 38 Games (AHL/NHL) Sven Andrighetto to AHL: 11 Goals, 21 Points in 35 Games (AHL/NHL) Jarred Tinordi: 0 Goals, 2 Points in 9 Games (AHL/NHL) Stefan Fournier: 5 Goals, 8 Points in 29 Games (AHL/ECHL) Sure, these are the moves you make when you are struggling to score. In terms of NHL production this season: Montreal adds 0 Goals, 1 Point Montreal loses 9 Goals, 12 Points Edited January 15, 2016 by Advantage Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 16 minutes ago, Advantage said: Bergevin? Not sure why people have ever thought he is a "whiz". To me he is very safe and generally makes solid minor moves but really who has he acquired? Petry was a good move but other than that, it has all been very minor. The Vanek deal was okay but it didn't really work out of course. At the end of the day he just seems too in bed with Therrien at this point and is afraid to make any significant move. Original comment. I've heard countless times people praising him for being a genius. I don't know a lot of him, so I can't say if he is or not in my opinion. Regardless of if he is or isn't, this wasn't the greatest move. Pretty sure Shawn was just having a laugh, easy up. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,897 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Sorry, but I've read that comment at least fifty times today so it's gotten a little old. Max Pacioretty - Tomas Plekanec - Brendan Gallagher Tomas Fleischmann - David Desharnais - Dale Weise Lars Eller - Alex Galchenyuk - Devante Smith-Pelly Jacob De La Rose - Torrey Mitchell - Brian Flynn Fucking pathetic offense. I'll be surprised if the team is even close to the playoffs at the end of the year. Edited January 15, 2016 by Advantage Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,897 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Also looks like Scott won't be an All-Star so there is that too. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,897 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Deals of some significance by Bergevin: February 26, 2013 - Erik Cole traded to Dallas Stars for Michael Ryder and a 3rd round pick #71 (Connor Crisp) in 2013 February 03, 2014 - Raphael Diaz traded to Vancouver Canucks for Dale Weise March 05, 2014 - Sebastian Collberg and a 2nd round pick #57 (Johnathan MacLeod - Tampa Bay) in 2014 traded to New York Islanders for Thomas Vanek and a 5th round pick #125 (Nikolas Koberstein) in 2014. June 30, 2014 - Daniel Briere traded to Colorado Avalanche for Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau and a 5th round pick #131 (Matthew Bradley) in 2015 July 01, 2014 - Josh Gorges traded to Buffalo Sabres for a 2nd round pick (TBD) in 2016 previously acquired from Minnesota (March 05, 2014) November 11, 2014 - Travis Moen traded to Dallas Stars for Sergei Gonchar November 20, 2014 - Rene Bourque traded to Anaheim Ducks for Bryan Allen February 24, 2015 - Jiri Sekac traded to Anaheim Ducks for Devante Smith-Pelly March 02, 2015 - 2nd round pick #57 (Jonas Siegenthaler - Washington via New York Rangers) in 2015 and a 4th round pick #117 (Caleb Jones) in 2015 traded to Edmonton Oilers for Jeff Petry. March 02, 2015 - Jack Nevins and a 7th round pick (TBD) in 2016 traded to Buffalo Sabres for Torrey MitchellMarch 02, 2015 - 5th round pick (TBD) in 2016 traded to Buffalo Sabres for Brian Flynn July 01, 2015 - Brandon Prust traded to Vancouver Canucks for Zack Kassian and a 5th round pick (TBD) in 2016 December 28, 2015 - Zack Kassian traded to Edmonton Oilers for Ben Scrivens The Weise deal was great and I like the Petry deal cause he has really stabilized their defense. Other than that though, what the heck has he even done? We haven't been a player in Free Agency and our drafting hasn't been all that exceptional since he came in. Overall, not sure what all the praise he gets is for. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Petry deal was nice. Also WTH fuck Phoenix for dealing Scott and making him not an allstar Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,897 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dewie said: Petry deal was nice. Also WTH fuck Phoenix for dealing Scott and making him not an allstar It seems pretty clear that the league asked for this to happen. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, Advantage said: It seems pretty clear that the league asked for this to happen. which is a joke bc it was a FAN VOTE Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Dewie said: which is a joke bc it was a FAN VOTE Yup, but even that is a bit of a joke. It should be the top players as voted on by a committee consisting of the head scout from each team or something along those lines. I remember growing up they had West vs. East, players voted in by the NHL brass wearing those purple and green jerseys. Go back to it. Have a certain number voted in and then have the fans vote int the starters. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacePuncher 1,343 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, Kendrick said: Yup, but even that is a bit of a joke. It should be the top players as voted on by a committee consisting of the head scout from each team or something along those lines. I remember growing up they had West vs. East, players voted in by the NHL brass wearing those purple and green jerseys. Go back to it. Have a certain number voted in and then have the fans vote int the starters. The whole all star game is a joke though already Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just now, ADwyer87 said: The whole all star game is a joke though already Well yeah but thats because it largely is a complete 180 from when they started doing it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Iam pissed off. I guess I am not watching the game now. FacePuncher 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 40 minutes ago, Dewie said: Iam pissed off. I guess I am not watching the game now. Yep. Getting traded to Montreal and Montreal not calling him up to the NHL disqualifies him, since he'd be an AHL player. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 9 hours ago, Dewie said: Iam pissed off. I guess I am not watching the game now. You were going to watch it anyway? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 18 hours ago, Advantage said: Deals of some significance by Bergevin: February 26, 2013 - Erik Cole traded to Dallas Stars for Michael Ryder and a 3rd round pick #71 (Connor Crisp) in 2013 February 03, 2014 - Raphael Diaz traded to Vancouver Canucks for Dale Weise March 05, 2014 - Sebastian Collberg and a 2nd round pick #57 (Johnathan MacLeod - Tampa Bay) in 2014 traded to New York Islanders for Thomas Vanek and a 5th round pick #125 (Nikolas Koberstein) in 2014. June 30, 2014 - Daniel Briere traded to Colorado Avalanche for Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau and a 5th round pick #131 (Matthew Bradley) in 2015 July 01, 2014 - Josh Gorges traded to Buffalo Sabres for a 2nd round pick (TBD) in 2016 previously acquired from Minnesota (March 05, 2014) November 11, 2014 - Travis Moen traded to Dallas Stars for Sergei Gonchar November 20, 2014 - Rene Bourque traded to Anaheim Ducks for Bryan Allen February 24, 2015 - Jiri Sekac traded to Anaheim Ducks for Devante Smith-Pelly March 02, 2015 - 2nd round pick #57 (Jonas Siegenthaler - Washington via New York Rangers) in 2015 and a 4th round pick #117 (Caleb Jones) in 2015 traded to Edmonton Oilers for Jeff Petry. March 02, 2015 - Jack Nevins and a 7th round pick (TBD) in 2016 traded to Buffalo Sabres for Torrey MitchellMarch 02, 2015 - 5th round pick (TBD) in 2016 traded to Buffalo Sabres for Brian Flynn July 01, 2015 - Brandon Prust traded to Vancouver Canucks for Zack Kassian and a 5th round pick (TBD) in 2016 December 28, 2015 - Zack Kassian traded to Edmonton Oilers for Ben Scrivens The Weise deal was great and I like the Petry deal cause he has really stabilized their defense. Other than that though, what the heck has he even done? We haven't been a player in Free Agency and our drafting hasn't been all that exceptional since he came in. Overall, not sure what all the praise he gets is for. Those are all dope moves. Those moves are all underrated. Gorges for a second was unbelievable. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacePuncher 1,343 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Hagelin to Pittsburgh for Perron and Clendening fuck u Rutherford Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/24597-2015-2016-nhl-discussion/page/14/#findComment-303578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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