JardyB10 4,865 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 What the shit was Beth even trying to accomplish there? Was she going for the tiny scissor kill, or just committing suicide to prove a point? This season's been good, but I don't really understand that bit. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-156108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 What the shit was Beth even trying to accomplish there? Was she going for the tiny scissor kill, or just committing suicide to prove a point? This season's been good, but I don't really understand that bit. Honestly, I think it was part suicide/part she wasn't thinking clearly. Dawn had pissed her off for the last time and she just wanted her dead. She could also simply have known that the scissors wouldn't be enough to kill Dawn and that the Dawn or one of the cops would take her out, ensuring that Dawn would die. She was never cut out for the apocalypse, and she was slowly losing hope. After seeing what was going on in the hospital and starting to kind of trust Dawn, only to see her pull her power trip BS at the end again, may have just been too much for her to bear. Remember, she tried to commit suicide once before, and was "brought back" by her hope and seeing how many people she had that cared about her. At this point though her father is definitely dead (murdered in front of her) as well as her not knowing where Maggie is. I can see her just being done with everything and not caring anymore. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-156110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 I don't think it was that she didn't care anymore, it's just that she wanted to take Dawn down. After Dawn made the power move by demanding Noah, and realizing that she had been a pawn in Dawn's game she was done with it. Stabbing her in the shoulder was either an emotional mistake, or an attempt to wound but not kill her. Maybe she didn't expect Dawn to shoot her. Maybe she did, and wanted it to happen knowing one of Rick or Daryl would undoubtedly fire back in revenge. Who knows. Beth clearly wanted to get Dawn out of the way so things would be better at the hospital, that much I'm sure of. As much as people complain about it, I think it's 100% intentional that Beth's death is sudden and "pointless" because that's the world they live in. Sometimes people die for no good reason. They don't have time to say goodbye, it just happens. I think that's why it hurt more than most major character deaths in the show; there was a very obvious buildup to it where they were in a perilous situation. Things seemed to be okay and then BANG, she's gone. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-156111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 As much as people complain about it, I think it's 100% intentional that Beth's death is sudden and "pointless" because that's the world they live in. Sometimes people die for no good reason. They don't have time to say goodbye, it just happens. I think that's why it hurt more than most major character deaths in the show; there was a very obvious buildup to it where they were in a perilous situation. Things seemed to be okay and then BANG, she's gone Agreed 100% Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-156112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Still better than the Sophia / Farm story arc that was actually a waste of a season. Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-156115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Still better than the Sophia / Farm story arc that was actually a waste of a season. Exactly. I didn't see the sophia reveal coming the way it did so that was nice, but anyone who didnt know she was dead was kidding themselves. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-156116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ok, does this series legit have an issue with having more than one black guy in the group at the same time? Because at first I thought it was just a funny coincidence, but now...Noah seriously better watch his back if any new brothas come into play. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ok, does this series legit have an issue with having more than one black guy in the group at the same time? Because at first I thought it was just a funny coincidence, but now...Noah seriously better watch his back if any new brothas come into play. Can't be, they still have Father Gabriel Also Morgan's set to come back... gonna be interesting to see what happens. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Noah's fucked. Morgan's just around the corner and there was other news that popped up recently that made it obvious. That said, Father Gabriel is irrelevant really. He's notable right now but if they follow the comics, once they hit Alexandria he's going to disappear almost entirely. TBH I think part of it was that Tyreese had just run his course -- at least in his show incarnation. I hoped they were gonna flip the script and make him the one-armed badass like Rick in the comics, but he just wasn't willing to do the dirty work. If you asked me two years ago if Sasha would outlive Tyreese I wouldn't have believed you, but here we are. Edited February 12, 2015 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Can't be, they still have Father Gabriel Also Morgan's set to come back... gonna be interesting to see what happens. I guess 2 black guys will be dying before season's end to let one of them stay for awhile. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 TBH I think part of it was that Tyreese had just run his course -- at least in his show incarnation. I hoped they were gonna flip the script and make him the one-armed badass like Rick in the comics, but he just wasn't willing to do the dirty work. If you asked me two years ago if Sasha would outlive Tyreese I wouldn't have believed you, but here we are. Oh I agree whole heartedly. Tyreese just wasn't cut out for the world they were living in, and it just kept becoming more and more obvious. Hell, he almost got a baby killed because he couldn't do what needed to be done. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,208 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Maybe Noah will stab Father Gabriel with a tiny set of scissors and get shot in the head. Leaving Morgan as the only black guy heading into season 6. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Maybe Noah will stab Father Gabriel with a tiny set of scissors and get shot in the head. Leaving Morgan as the only black guy heading into season 6. Too soon. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 R.I.P. T-DOG Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,208 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 R.I.P. Black guy number 22 in season 8. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 R.I.P. T-DOG smh dis gorlab Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-182170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Morgan will probably come back as soon as one or both of Noah and/or Gabriel dies. Like, they're all going to be in a hairy situation, and people are gonna be dropping, including Noah because his leg is all fucked and he didn't seem all that useful besides (#savedbythefence), and/or Gabriel because he's a gigantic pussy (#savedbyaboulder). Then when it seems all is doomed Morgan rolls up in a big ass vehicle, like a military humvee or some shit, and start blowing zombies away with his AK. Then he and Rick will make eye contact, have a silent moment, and finally Morgan will say something witty or heroic or some shit ("Remember that meaningful bit of the last conversation we had? Because I do, and it changed me, and now I'm here to join you. Now to apparently remove this arm of yours...") and the episode/season will end. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-184047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,208 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 That entrance at the end reminded me of Ethan from Lost. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-184318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Don't count on Gabriel dying because when they get to the next location they're going to hole up in, he becomes a background character and little more. For the first time in a long time, the arrival of a stranger -- in this case, Aaron -- isn't a bad thing. He's a good guy. But him being there means there's a real big baddy just around the corner... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-184330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Tonight I realized that like every black character on TWD was on The Wire. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-184355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 This episode has been sweet. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-187351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,896 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I love this episode Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-187352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Tonight I realized that like every black character on TWD was on The Wire. I don't remember T-Dogg. Gabriel was Carver. Tyrese was the boxer guy. Bob was Deangelo Barksdale. Only 3 I can currently recall? Also I realize you were exhaggerating but I decided to list some. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-187418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Man, I really liked that episode. Wonder how long they'll be in Alexandria, I need to re-read the comics. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-187422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Things happen in Alexandria. It's a good place, but there's some good plot going on there. I'm excited for what lies ahead. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2672-walking-dead-thread/page/6/#findComment-187474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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