Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted May 22, 2016 Senior Admin Share Posted May 22, 2016 Pension Upgrades After much debate on both the public forum and within the BOG, we've decided that the pension upgrades available in the player store will be removed. These upgrades were the subject of much controversy, and we've come to agree with many of you who have expressed concern about a welfare claim being able to get as high as 5 TPE, just 1 less than a point task. We also fear that the existence of these upgrades may have been encouraging people to do welfare more often. There is really little logic for them when you can get the same effect from the VHL.com Upgrade at less or the same price, and that is what welfare users will have to buy from now on if they want that extra capped TPE. Only one member has bought it for S49 and he will have it refunded. Apologies for the slight delay in announcing this, we were toying with some other changes to welfare/pension but have decided that this two-players business should alleviate most concerns about pension so we'll wait and see what happens with that. Player-Goalie Position Changes This past off-season saw some debate about the league's decision to allow AK47 a position change. There has never been any formal rules on switching from player to goalie or vise-versa, so the circumstances were all we had to work with. In hindsight, it may have been a mistake and we apologize for that. In any case, it became clear that we need some real rules on these types of position changes. - A first-gen player will have 1 month from the date of their initial creation to switch to or from goalie at no penalty. - Re-creates will not be allowed to switch to or from goalie. However, if a player started off with carryover AND they decide they want to switch prior to the start of the VHL Playoffs in the year prior to their draft year (i.e. S49 Playoffs for an S50 draftee) we will allow them to retire and re-create once again while keeping that carryover. For example, Player 1, an S50 player, started off with 50 TPE in carryover from his previous player. Just before the start of S49 Playoffs, Player 1 decides he would like to switch to goalie. He will not be allowed to switch, but Player 1 can retire, recreate as Player 2, and start again at the 50 TPE in carryover from the previous player. This will only be allowed once with the same amount of carryover. (i.e. if the example player above decided he wanted to switch again, he would start at the base 30 TPE). No TPE will carryover from the player being switched from. This includes point tasks, claimed or unclaimed. If you make the switch, you are starting over. - A re-create with no carryover (or less than 30) will have to retire and recreate as normal should they want to switch to or from goalie. Victor, DollarAndADream, Jala and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,456 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 cool Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,903 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 RIP VHL. Down with the commies. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,241 Posted May 22, 2016 Admin Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 1:15 PM, Da Trifecta said: RIP VHL. Down with the commies. Expand commies are the ones who give out free handouts so.... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,903 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 1:26 PM, Victor said: commies are the ones who give out free handouts so.... Expand Fk a free handout scrub. EARN IT! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,557 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 @Draper So does this mean I get my carry over like I asked? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylar 219 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 damn, guess i'm not going to bother recreating Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacePuncher 1,343 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 1:15 PM, Da Trifecta said: RIP VHL. Down with the commies. Expand RIP because of 1 lost capped TPE in welfare? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,903 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 4:40 PM, ADwyer87 said: RIP because of 1 lost capped TPE in welfare? Expand Because the commy scum gave into the whiny little cry babies. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Senior Admin Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 4:30 PM, Tylar said: damn, guess i'm not going to bother recreating Expand You still get 4/week, I don't think a couple of seasons of 5/week is going to make or break a career - especially with all the other shit going on for capped TPE On 5/22/2016 at 4:06 PM, Banackock said: @Draper So does this mean I get my carry over like I asked? Expand On 5/22/2016 at 12:49 PM, Draper said: - Re-creates will not be allowed to switch to or from goalie. However, if a player started off with carryover AND they decide they want to switch prior to the start of the VHL Playoffs in the year prior to their draft year (i.e. S49 Playoffs for an S50 draftee) we will allow them to retire and re-create once again while keeping that carryover. Expand Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,903 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 4:30 PM, Tylar said: damn, guess i'm not going to bother recreating Expand It's a shame to lose a valuable member to some garbage Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,870 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 > Complains that people who wanted to remove a redundant option in the Player Store are crybabies. > Acts like a crybaby stevo, FacePuncher and Caillean 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacePuncher 1,343 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 4:46 PM, Da Trifecta said: Because the commy scum gave into the whiny little cry babies. Expand Welfare sucks anyway. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,903 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 5:34 PM, JardyB10 said: > Complains that people who wanted to remove a redundant option in the Player Store are crybabies. > Acts like a crybaby Expand >Hasn't had to change anything in 40+ seasons >Pretends to be a commish for a day Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Senior Admin Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 4:46 PM, Da Trifecta said: Because the commy scum gave into the whiny little cry babies. Expand I'm pretty certain the majority of the league agrees that giving out 5 TPE for posting in a thread is absurd when you get 6 for a point task. We're not 'giving in' to anyone, we all agree on this change. On 5/22/2016 at 5:43 PM, Da Trifecta said: >Hasn't had to change anything in 40+ seasons >Pretends to be a commish for a day Expand Say what you want about this change but don't talk shit about the guy who has simmed for several real life years. He's done infinitely more for this league than your shit attitude has ever done or will ever do. stevo, Kendrick, DollarAndADream and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,903 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) On 5/22/2016 at 5:58 PM, Draper said: I'm pretty certain the majority of the league agrees that giving out 5 TPE for posting in a thread is absurd when you get 6 for a point task. We're not 'giving in' to anyone, we all agree on this change. Say what you want about this change but don't talk shit about the guy who has simmed for several real life years. He's done infinitely more for this league than your shit attitude has ever done or will ever do. Expand LMFAO just stop talking hahaha Also since when is majority like 3-4 people? Edited May 22, 2016 by Da Trifecta Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Senior Admin Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 5:59 PM, Da Trifecta said: LMFAO just stop talking hahaha Expand Wow, you got me there stevo 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,903 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 6:00 PM, Draper said: Wow, you got me there Expand Who cares if he simmed 50 years of his life, that was his problem. Not mine. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacePuncher 1,343 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I for one am happy with this first announcement. I'm assuming the second announcement is just to clear stuff up since AK-47 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,870 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I'm not even sure what you're upset about, DT. You have a great player, and I don't think you even have to rely on welfare. But even if you do, this still hardly changes anything. So why is it that this is not a fair change? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Senior Admin Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 5:59 PM, Da Trifecta said: Also since when is majority like 3-4 people? Expand You act like your the leader of the revolution but you're literally the only one in here bitching and moaning Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,241 Posted May 22, 2016 Admin Share Posted May 22, 2016 DT is only raging because 701 wasn't forced to change back to goalie. His complaint has nothing to do with welfare or pension. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,903 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 6:06 PM, Draper said: You act like your the leader of the revolution but you're literally the only one in here bitching and moaning Expand I'm acting like a leader of a revolution? What do you think this is the 1600's? LMFAO nice joke. I ain't bitching and moaning. I seem to see the other asses around the league doing so by whining to you about this or that. If they put forth the effort to get themselves the 5 TPE based off contract and work in the player category they would be on the other side of this argument. Everyone in favor or this is whiny first gens who think they are better than others. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,903 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/22/2016 at 6:07 PM, Victor said: DT is only raging because 701 wasn't forced to change back to goalie. His complaint has nothing to do with welfare or pension. Expand I didn't pay attention if he moved or not. Nor do I give a shit if he moved or not. I don't worry about people who will be inactive in a matter of a couple weeks. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacePuncher 1,343 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Correction, I am a whiny first gen who knows I'm better than others! Edited May 22, 2016 by ADwyer87 stevo, DollarAndADream and Phil 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/30604-s49-announcements/#findComment-341873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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