hedgehog337 3,480 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, boubabi said: I can enjoy 2 different position at the time, Actually this is the reason of a goalie influx. Not speaking about Boubabi here, some members got a chance to have a goalie and a player at the same time and they did it. Well, some of 400-500 TPE goalies are wasting their careers sitting as a backup. Edited September 17, 2017 by hedgehog337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,769 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, jRuutu said: Not a huge fan of the idea where you can earn TPE for ´free´ if you have done something in some other league. If that happens, I´m not going to write anything here. Assuming I can claim 4-6 TPE here each week if I did a media spot in SBA for example? Even if the 4 TPE is the only TPE I can add to my player here, I would still go with that and be a career 2nd or 3rd liner. Can still slam in solid numbers in a good team even if you play on ´bottom´ lines + you get at least 15 minutes of playing time with almost 0 effort, just do a media spot in some other league, update here and you are good to go. Sounds even worse than the welfare system, but at least the league savers, also known as welfare players had to ´work´ to get where they are now, had to create one or two 400 TPE players before they can claim the 3 or 4 TPE. Are they still huge parts of this league or should the welfare system also be looked at and maybe even removed? Instead of kicking out the army of welfare players and forcing them to actually do PT´s if they want to be in VHL, league thought it´s much better to push the active players to do even more work and create 2nd players in order to save the place? Get rid of the welfare, get rid of the 2nd player system, get rid of any kind of donation TPE double bonuses, get rid of teams and go back to hard work. Add new TPE opportunities, like those league related PT´s in the OP, make them weekly even, I don´t know, but the point is: One user = One player. Do the PT`s if you want to improve your player. If we do this..leagues dead bud. Welfare has to stay. eaglesfan036 and Da Trifecta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I wanted to create a goaltender for my 2nd player would have been a waste a time really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, ADV said: If we do this..leagues dead bud. Welfare has to stay. Not true. I think if we up the value of work ethic, the league would maybe be in a better shape. A welfare system is okay, but making a player strictly on welfare isn't good for the league and was kept because the league likes to patch problems instead of fixing it see the 2nd player project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgehog337 3,480 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, jRuutu said: Get rid of the welfare 2 minutes ago, jRuutu said: go back to hard work. Like I said in your welfare topic like a year ago, straight no to this. I don't know what about other guys here, but I'm already having problems with finding a desire to type even 500 words. But it's not a reason why I should leave the sim-leagues because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangles13 373 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Player of the week receives a blowjob? Banackock and Spade18 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jRuutu 2,303 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, ADV said: If we do this..leagues dead bud. Welfare has to stay. Where are all the welfare players? What they do in VHL on average week? Would removing it really be that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, jRuutu said: Would removing it really be that bad? sim wise, yes. Like it or not, the league is filled with welfare player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgehog337 3,480 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, jRuutu said: What they do in VHL on average week? GM'ing the Riga Reign team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Dangles13 said: Player of the week receives a blowjob? a 2 minutes lickey or a 15 minutes well done job ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,769 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, jRuutu said: Where are all the welfare players? What they do in VHL on average week? Would removing it really be that bad? It kills off quite a few people's interest when we are already struggling to get people. The whole idea of bringing others in through other leagues is to get a little more traffic and some new members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jRuutu 2,303 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, hedgehog337 said: Like I said in your welfare topic like a year ago, straight no to this. I don't know what about other guys here, but I'm already having problems with finding a desire to type even 500 words. But it's not a reason why I should leave the sim-leagues because of that. I get that, after some point coming up with a new idea and then writing 500 words is not easy, but then again we have 2nd player system in place these days. Kinda weird that some players are forced to build 2nd players while some can just claim welfare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jRuutu 2,303 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, boubabi said: sim wise, yes. Like it or not, the league is filled with welfare player Then some teams need to go from VHL, or make a ´AHL` into VHL that is mostly for welfare players. Save VHL for the active ones, even if it´s 4 teams left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgehog337 3,480 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, jRuutu said: Kinda weird that some players are forced to build 2nd players Forced? How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jRuutu 2,303 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, hedgehog337 said: GM'ing the Riga Reign team. That is you, but with a quick look, there is usually at least 15 players claiming welfare weekly, sometimes even over 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, jRuutu said: Then some teams need to go from VHL, or make a ´AHL` into VHL that is mostly for welfare players. Save VHL for the active ones, even if it´s 4 teams left. tanking will always happen no matter how much team you have in the league you could have 3 teams, and a team would find a way to tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jRuutu 2,303 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, hedgehog337 said: Forced? How so? The whole system is in place because the league needed more players? Some of the hardcore VHL users saw what is going on and decided to help out and create the 2nd player. Maybe some users just like the idea of working ´double´, but I find it hard to believe that most just built 2nd players purely for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 7,642 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, boubabi said: I wanted to create a goaltender for my 2nd player would have been a waste a time really I wish to create one again too. VHL had to retire too early. GOMHL was a waste of time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jRuutu 2,303 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, boubabi said: tanking will always happen no matter how much team you have in the league you could have 3 teams, and a team would find a way to tank Those GM´s should be fired then, need to rebuild sometimes - sure, but actively making sure your team is losing should result in GM getting fired. Should also be easier to find GM´s when there would be 4-6 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgehog337 3,480 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, jRuutu said: but I find it hard to believe that most just built 2nd players purely for fun. I'm actually having a fun with 119-point Krīgars now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 tanking is in the nature of the vhl. Wanting to reach for the 1st oa, or the best pick, is just the way to go to contend for a long time. CGY is actually victim of the fact that they never really tanked that good in recent seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,990 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, boubabi said: Not true. I think if we up the value of work ethic, the league would maybe be in a better shape. A welfare system is okay, but making a player strictly on welfare isn't good for the league and was kept because the league likes to patch problems instead of fixing it see the 2nd player project How did you come to that conclusion? Welfare/pension has done a lot for the league. Not everyone is going to be a TPE whore or wanting to go all out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 because some people value the community and the board activity as a reason to stay. Welfare members usually do not contribute to the community life and or board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jRuutu 2,303 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, hedgehog337 said: I'm actually having a fun with 119-point Krīgars now. And that is great, but we just need to find like 15 more like you who can build players like Krigars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, jRuutu said: And that is great, but we just need to find like 15 more like you who can build players like Krigars! you mean 300 tpe scrubs that over performs for no reason ? trash talk season is ON Banackock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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