Admin Victor 10,614 Posted December 15, 2014 Admin Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm done, fuck this.I underestimated the potential recreate ragequit. Darn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,725 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The way the VHLM works has been changed, so naturally so does the way it should be approached. IMO now the goal isn't to dominate, it's to prepare the user for the VHL and to accumulate what you can to succeed there. The reduced ability to dominate the VHLM makes staying there a less attractive option than moving up to thr VHL, which is the whole point of the VHLM. This. Not a paragraph more, not a paragraph less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,183 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 McDavid didn't magically "absorb" Wayne Gretzky's talent (carryover TPE) upon Gretzky's retirement. He gained his own talent (TPE) through practice and hard work in Atom, Peewee, Bantam, Midget hockey. Should we create those leagues too for a more full, realistic career? I'd join that league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,990 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 WHY DON'T HE GO IN THE NHL ? - VHL members They let him into the OHL when he was 15 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Hmm I actually see the benefit in what Rhinehart is saying. Whatever. Although he's honestly the only person who brought a logical point against my Remove Inactives argument. I feel like a VHLM Salary Cap could accomplish the same while also improving disparity and spread out the locker room love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaro 208 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 1) So he leads the league in points with 15 TPE because he's on a bad team? Why is his +/- also second best in the league? 2) No - per Victor, a VHLM FA can play 8 VHLM seasons at 175 TPE theoretically. If you're capped at 175 TPE and you're salty about getting beat in production by a 15 TPE player maybe TPE isn't the problem and you just suck at this ? Caillean and gorlab 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,467 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,626 Posted December 16, 2014 Senior Admin Share Posted December 16, 2014 If you're capped at 175 TPE and you're salty about getting beat in production by a 15 TPE player maybe TPE isn't the problem and you just suck at this ? Let's not turn this into another flame thread. Up to this point this thread has been more than less a professional debate so there is no need to take jabs at people. Caillean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaro 208 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) Let's not turn this into another flame thread. Up to this point this thread has been more than less a professional debate so there is no need to take jabs at people. When you have 8-9 pages of someone repeating that someone with 15 TPE is beating him in scoring I'm not sure you understand that definition of "professional debate" You take out the inactives and there's just gonna be Robots playing those positions and people will be even more salty that Robots are doing better than their players. Edited December 16, 2014 by Lunaro gorlab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 When you have 8-9 pages of someone repeating that someone with 15 TPE is beating him in scoring I'm not sure you understand that definition of "professional debate" You take out the inactives and there's just gonna be Robots playing those positions and people will be even more salty that Robots are doing better than their players. It's been pretty much "solved". And I doubt people will be upset that AIM-11 is beating them because AIM is just awesome like that. Will and Caillean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,467 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Increase the limit to 176 I say. Keeps all parties happy. gorlab, James and lere2001 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaro 208 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Have no cap on VHLM but just don't actually update the player attributes in the sim. Everyone plays at 0 TPE until they get to the VHL cuz no one cares about VHLM stats anyways gorlab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaro 208 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 It's been pretty much "solved". And I doubt people will be upset that AIM-11 is beating them because AIM is just awesome like that. Chinese robots OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Have no cap on VHLM but just don't actually update the player attributes in the sim. Everyone plays at 0 TPE until they get to the VHL cuz no one cares about VHLM stats anyways I feel like Gorlab and Jala would fight you for saying this. gorlab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,467 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 The Old Bo......BOG are working on this and I trust them to pool their collective talent and wisdom to do(or leave) what's best for all of us. #inbogwetrust Caillean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,806 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 i think anyone should be forced out of VHLM after 3 seasons. bjorkstand or whatever his name is only had like 60 TPE and he's dominating. Sure, lets have even less players in the VHLM. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jala 922 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 This whole thing came up because a couple of players (Zoidberg, O'Malley, Richardson) got about 100 TPE from recruiting and triple predictions and inflated the shit out of their players after being in the VHLM. Good on them, but that was due to yet another mistake on the BOG's part. I just wanted to clarify about this. I didn't use any prediction modifiers and my only recruit prior to this past off-season was Jaime Hill hitting 5 TPE, so I didn't abuse that. Caillean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaro 208 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I just wanted to clarify about this. I didn't use any prediction modifiers and my only recruit prior to this past off-season was Jaime Hill hitting 5 TPE, so I didn't abuse that. Yeah cuz all your abuse is done on Caillean's face Caillean and gorlab 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jala 922 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Sharp left turn in this thread lol Caillean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'd rather have a hard cap than a soft cap. You young punks are lucky you just get a hard cap any time you want. What I wouldn't give to just have an on-demand hard cap at my age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denver 198 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Caillean and gorlab 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,276 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Reduce the number of inactives and reduce the VHLM to six teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIM-11 134 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 When you have 8-9 pages of someone repeating that someone with 15 TPE is beating him in scoring I'm not sure you understand that definition of "professional debate" You take out the inactives and there's just gonna be Robots playing those positions and people will be even more salty that Robots are doing better than their players. Robots are the future. Embrace Aritifical Intelligence. lere2001 and Caillean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) this is great stuff. i don't know who lunaro is, but other than that, good stuff. in response to whoever it is, my build is fine. i just don't understand how it's feasible for someone with 0 TPE (actually has no attributes updated in the sim) to be leading the leading the league in points. please advise. thx. Edited December 16, 2014 by CoachReilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,585 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 So much wrong in this thread I must point out: Really the VHLM should be more like the VHL with 6f, 4d, and 1g. No point in weirdly inflated rosters which bear little resemblance to the real deal. Inactive FAs now are just one spot per team anyway. Just one common misconception I want to point out. The reason it looks like teams have so many players is cause they just are filled with a lot of old 0 tpe or low tpe players who don't even play. Look at the lines of the past few cup winners (The S40 Watchmen are the anomaly, and probably why you mention this as they did have an absurd amount of players) Season 39 Ottawa Lynx - 6 forwards, 4 defensemen, 1 G Season 38 Yukon Rush - 6 forwards, 4 defensemen, 1 G Season 37 Yukon Rush - 6 forwards, 4 d, 1 G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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