CoachReilly 688 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Can someone explain why Davos had to give up 7th overall vs 13th? Precedent has been set to give up second round pick (Molholt cost TOR 2nd 12th overall and Mike cost SEA 2nd 13th overall). Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 ^this Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I've complained about GM succession and how goddamn random it is based on BOG random discussions about what's worth what - make this easy and do the right thing. Molholt and Mike were two of the top prospects their year and they only had to give up 11/12. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Just now, CoachReilly said: I've complained about GM succession and how goddamn random it is based on BOG random discussions about what's worth what - make this easy and do the right thing. Molholt and Mike were two of the top prospects their year and they only had to give up 11/12. I'll let someone else explain it in more detail, but Komarov is roughly worth 7th overall and not 13th. Seems pretty fair to me. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's time for a Black out Will 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 bc I was gonna take him at 6, there goes all my scouting u fucks Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Davos right now is not in exactly the best shape (due to me and Ahma) and as much as I love Komarov I would say 7th is slightly high for him. Molholt and Mike both could have been taken by any of the 6 or 7 picks Seattle and Toronto had together, and yet they got picked by worthless draft choices. congrats once again on your constantly changing methodology for succeeding GMs. Get your shit together. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 In terms of draft value, myself and Mike would've went much higher than the picks we had to give up. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted March 6, 2016 Admin Share Posted March 6, 2016 We can't go off precedent all the time if the precedent was wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right. The Mike and Molholt decision was wrong, but the better of two evils at the time. This situation has a very straightforward solution and we shouldn't look at Seattle and Toronto as the template to follow. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Just now, Victor said: We can't go off precedent all the time if the precedent was wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right. The Mike and Molholt decision was wrong, but the better of two evils at the time. This situation has a very straightforward solution and we shouldn't look at Seattle and Toronto as the template to follow. Fine by me, if that is stuck to from now on - especially since it didn't affect my CoachReilly 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I really wish you'd reconsider based on feedback being offered, but I doubt you will. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 The bad thing is -- there will be different circumstances on the next GM change and you will again rationalize why that was different. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 And I was hoping to fuck the system with my next player. I guess I can't expect that now. CoachReilly 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, CoachReilly said: Davos right now is not in exactly the best shape (due to me and Ahma) and as much as I love Komarov I would say 7th is slightly high for him. Molholt and Mike both could have been taken by any of the 6 or 7 picks Seattle and Toronto had together, and yet they got picked by worthless draft choices. congrats once again on your constantly changing methodology for succeeding GMs. Get your shit together. Well you'd have to blame the person(s) who decided that at the time. As far as I've always been concerned in decisions I've made, we've gone off of what makes the most sense at the time. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 He's about 15 TPE from 13th overall and about 40 from 7th in terms of pure TPE rankings. care to further explain the thought process on why 7 is so much closer than 13? come on dudes please be receptive Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted March 6, 2016 Admin Share Posted March 6, 2016 1 minute ago, CoachReilly said: He's about 15 TPE from 13th overall and about 40 from 7th in terms of pure TPE rankings. care to further explain the thought process on why 7 is so much closer than 13? come on dudes please be receptive well since you don't wait for replies and post it twice, I'll repeat myself wtf numbers are you basing that on Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, boubabi said: And I was hoping to fuck the system with my next player. I guess I can't expect that now. If you are still GM, it wouldn't really matter as he'd go automatically. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 D Black Velvet, 312 TPE 312 TPE 312.00 C Unassisted, 267 TPE 267 TPE 267.00 RW Tyson Kohler, 227 TPE 227 TPE 227.00 G Jakab Holik, 226 TPE 226 TPE 226.00 G Dmitri Dadonov, 176 TPE 176 TPE 176.00 RW Kendrick Cole, 172 TPE 172 TPE 172.00 RW Bogdan Podarok, 133 TPE 133 TPE 133.00 C Pavel Komarov, 97 TPE 97 TPE 97.00 D Clan Mercer, 95 TPE 95 TPE 95.00 D Nikki Kassanen, 89 TPE 89 TPE 89.00 LW Dope Fiend, 85 TPE 85 TPE 85.00 D Titan Kronos, 78 TPE 78 TPE 78.00 RW Rock Soapwart, 59 TPE Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted March 6, 2016 Admin Share Posted March 6, 2016 I invite you to look at the update threads also, which provide a more current and accurate representation. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, CoachReilly said: D Black Velvet, 312 TPE 312 TPE 312.00 C Unassisted, 267 TPE 267 TPE 267.00 RW Tyson Kohler, 227 TPE 227 TPE 227.00 G Jakab Holik, 226 TPE 226 TPE 226.00 G Dmitri Dadonov, 176 TPE 176 TPE 176.00 RW Kendrick Cole, 172 TPE 172 TPE 172.00 RW Bogdan Podarok, 133 TPE 133 TPE 133.00 C Pavel Komarov, 97 TPE 97 TPE 97.00 D Clan Mercer, 95 TPE 95 TPE 95.00 D Nikki Kassanen, 89 TPE 89 TPE 89.00 LW Dope Fiend, 85 TPE 85 TPE 85.00 D Titan Kronos, 78 TPE 78 TPE 78.00 RW Rock Soapwart, 59 TPE wow ty this is gonna help me w drafting Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,022 Posted March 6, 2016 Commissioner Share Posted March 6, 2016 Velvet goes first, in a move that surprises absolutely no one. Congrats Higgins. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 565 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Now higgins and stz are gone we're down to the real nitty gritty Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 STZ to Quebec is no surprise at all either. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,022 Posted March 6, 2016 Commissioner Share Posted March 6, 2016 I'm already crossed out hut haven't been picked yet? Spoilers? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted March 6, 2016 Admin Share Posted March 6, 2016 Poor STZ Molholt 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26812-s48-vhl-entry-draft-discussion/page/5/#findComment-317459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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