Nykonax

vancouver and spartan losing, name a better duo

2 hours ago, badcolethetitan said:

It was a devastating moment for Captain Siyan Yasilievich, who led the team to the playoffs

yeah get used to it pal

2 hours ago, rory said:

5. Achilles is current VHL member FISHY!

The favourite pick of conspiracy theorists across the Victory Hockey League - an inside job. The DAY after Fishy is no longer a moderator, "Achilles" pops off on anti-moderator rhetoric. This wacky behavior by "Achilles" can truly and utterly only lead us to one conclusion: fishy in either an act of REVENGE, or to show their worth to the moderation team wanted to throw shade on Baozi and his moderation gang. What is fishy's end game in all of this? Cement their legacy as VHL's best moderator and force Josh and Trollketov to name them new VHL HEAD MOD! 

the evidence is damning.

hot take, as always

I do agree with the part that the CoC is so general that it essentially allows the mod team to do whatever they want.

1 minute ago, Beketov said:

Gotta set up that triple gold club early my man!

quadruple now, Bek hates the E confirmed.

9 minutes ago, Achilles said:

But the vhlm is important to new players.

Yes, I forgot to include that in my original post. It is important for new people and is an introduction to the league, and it's important they have a good experience. But it's also important for recreates, they just have different priorities, like wanting to just spend the time there with their friends and see their brand new player play. Are recreates joining one team ruining the league and thus the experience for new players? No, they have like 70 TPE and scored 3 goals combined. Like Spartan said, Saskatoon lost to goalies, not recreates. If the recreates don't score maybe they get lucky and lose in 5. However, if some rule stopping recreates from joining the same team was implemented, would that ruin the experience for the recreates? Yeah probably.

44 minutes ago, Triller said:

As for the VHLM, I agree but in a different way.  I haven't looked into the VHLE much or the VHL as my focus is on the league I am in.  After getting swept by the Mexico City Kings this evening, I was quite aware of the discrepancy between teams and recreates signing together.  I think the problem is in the mindset of those users and their inability to understand that when they do this, they are slowly killing something they enjoy.  Now, it doesn't bother me much cause they are just ruining the experience for themselves and I can ignore the impact on my team.  I would like to win a championship in the VHLM but that isn't the main goal and I wouldn't want to win it with a bunch of recreates who planned it out anyways.  Boring.  I use the VHLM to learn how this site works and to get accustomed to the sims and meet a few people while developing my player.  There are certainly some things that could be improved, they just need to be discussed appropriately, but the biggest thing is making those recreate users understand why what they are doing is an issue and how it could drive away new players.

I don't think recreates do it from the perspective of like needing to win a championship. Once you're out of the VHLM, and especially once you're on your second+ player, you kind of stop caring about the VHLM as much, it's just a place you go for a season and then you're onto the VHL/E where you start actually caring about performance. I couldn't tell you a single cup winner in the VHLM in any season, and I don't think many people could. Instead, I think the primary reason recreates join certain teams or not is because of friendships, as well as wanting to see their players play. The best way to do that is to join the same team, and join a team that has a solid chance at making a playoff run. You wouldn't want to join a team that's not going to make playoffs or will be out in the first round because then you don't get to see your player play, which is the primary reason we're here. It just ends up that there's usually only one or two teams that fit the criteria of a) having room for a bunch of signings, and b) being able to make a somewhat good playoff run.

1 minute ago, Spartan said:

Reinhard von Konmeig - (1-2-3)

YEAH KYLRAD WOOOO

17 minutes ago, Achilles said:

I have talked to some players who agree with me that something needs to change.

i agree we should ban @badcolethetitan and @Kylrad by association

mod team gonna lock this thread zzzzzz

dil also deleted my voice channel in discord for fun so i can get behind this

11 hours ago, Beketov said:

You know that and I know that but does someone brand new know that? They just are an insurmountable mountain and 8 minutes of ice time, where is the incentive to stick around?

No, but I think the biggest issue would be rate of earning. Previously you'd be able to hit 200 TPA within a season or two and be one of those top players, now it would take double the time. I think a combined M/E would also have enough teams to be generally running 6-4-1? Or even 9-4-1 with a double shifted 3rd/4th line would give a fair amount of icetime. I don't really have an opinion of whether this is a good idea or not to combine them, would have to look much more in-depth, but I don't think it's an outright bad idea.

I do really like the idea of a seperate recreate/new-gen draft for the VHLM, but I'll let the commishes handle that one

On 10/6/2022 at 8:16 PM, Beketov said:

The problem that has always existed with that is simply that 400 TPE is far too high of a threshold for the VHLM. Imagine coming in as a fresh first gen with 30 TPE and seeing teams filled with second and third year guys with over 4x as much TPE as you. How much would you really want to stick around knowing you’d be buried in the depth chart behind those guys for multiple seasons? Even at 250 we started to get this problem a little bit, it would be rather unbearable at a cap of 400.

Honestly is it actually that big of a difference now with hybrid attributes? If you look at TPA in the STHS attributed scale (old system) a capped E player is like 200 TPA, a capped player in the M is like 100, and a brand new player in the M is like 20. Assuming the portal isn't wrong, I don't think that's a huge difference, and would be comparable to what the M was before the VHLE.

wat

10 minutes ago, Enorama said:

> googles name

> it's an anime reference

2 minutes ago, Kylrad said:

Player Information

Username: Kylrad

Player Name: Reinhard von Kongming

Recruited From: Returning

Age: 18

Position: D

Height: 71 in.

Weight: 190 lbs.

Birthplace: Isle of Man

 

Player Page

 

@VHLM GM

big if true

1 hour ago, Alex said:

 Eno Rama @Enorama

Potential Milestone: 600 Losses as GM

Likelihood: Guaranteed

fixed it

2 hours ago, Shindigs said:

But it would be good if we could all be in agreement on if that's the change we're going to announce this off-season.

have we talked about when changes would be implemented for?

8 hours ago, Tate said:

However, I can’t help but shine a light on @Spartan  who time and time again seems to come through as a clutch community member, and who has a strong sense of leadership skills.  He would be my first choice for the third commissioner\

fake af

15 hours ago, Spartan said:

Eno probably being more underrated despite the lack of championships as a GM

smh didnt have to do him like that

but I think its too soon to be inducting people on that list, I think in 10 or so seasons RJ, Gustav, Eno, and maybe Dil would be excellent inductions

59 minutes ago, badcolethetitan said:

effected

affected*

1 minute ago, jacobcarson877 said:

maybe its a version thing but this is what I found from the STHS manual

oh yeah if you have higher scoring you are probably more likely to score, but there's no difference between like a shot from the slot and a shot from the blue line in chance of scoring.

3 hours ago, jacobcarson877 said:

(not increasing the frequency of shots, but still the quality)

I think all shots in STHS are considered of the same quality.

2 hours ago, Enorama said:

but at worst they're a net 0 (and I think Poise is actually decent

I think Discipline (poise) is a useless attribute individually, but if a whole team has like 60/70 discipline it's actually pretty good.

4 hours ago, Shindigs said:

The distribution should be very close to normalized for VHL scoring, so using z-score should be valid, and since you have access to the whole population you obviously don't need to use t-score to correct for only working off a sample. Anything that involves a very large numbers of randomized events (like a VHL season) should inherently end up with a normal distribution, it won't be perfect. But good enough that there shouldn't be any issue with using this. Also since you have access to all data points, you can simply create a graph of it in excel/sheets and visually confirm that's it is/isn't normal.

seems like S76 (and I'd guess most of the 70s) is pretty normally distributed, otherwise a lot of seasons have a bunch of players in the 0-about 10/15 points range which I guess it just a lot of bots that I didn't filter out for reasons I said above. Gonna talk to my professor about this and find out more about the impacts of it.

5 hours ago, Shindigs said:

but if you ever take a look at hybrid era only in the future, you also have to split centers and wingers, since the quite substantial investment in FO these days means they really aren't on an even playing field

I don't necessarily think that's true. Pretty sure centres just inherently get more points in STHS, and that even playing field doesn't really exist or matter. Sure they might have 100 less TPA, but there's no need for adjusting based on that, especially since there wouldn't be adjusting for TPE differences. Centres effectively have 100 less TPA, but some players also just straight up have 100-200-500 less TPA than other ones. That's not being adjusted for (and shouldn't), so why should the centre difference be adjusted for? I think the positional adjustment between defenseman and forwards does make sense though, because right now a 150 point season from a forward would have a higher z-score than a 140 point from a defenseman, even though I think nearly everyone would say 140 from a D is much more outstanding than 150 from a forward.