Higgins 3,618 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 COL : S54 CGY 2nd HSK : Sir William Covington III Devise 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreg 930 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I accept Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Posted just in time haha this is brilliant. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 but he didnt waive his NTC before the deadline therefore trade is null STZ 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,891 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 So does it have to be posted or everything accepted by 8? Lol. Trade posted at 8..so wasnt sure Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 This was posted 7:59 PM EST Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluObieZ 1,125 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) How's it going guys? Oh still waiting? That sucks Keep it up Edited March 5, 2017 by BobertZ Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,045 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Advantage said: So does it have to be posted or everything accepted by 8? Lol. Trade posted at 8..so wasnt sure Guess there's no clarification in the rules. Thus, imo, legal? idk Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just now, Banackock said: Guess there's no clarification in the rules. Thus, imo, legal? idk For as long as I've been a GM it's been, has to be posted before the deadline. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,045 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just now, Higgins said: For as long as I've been a GM it's been, has to be posted before the deadline. Has to be posted, yeah. But there's nothing on a NTC being waived or w/e. Tricky, sticky. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just now, Banackock said: Has to be posted, yeah. But there's nothing on a NTC being waived or w/e. Tricky, sticky. True, but as we are a global league with people in different time zones it's hard to expect a player to waive if a trade is posted minutes to the deadline. At some point it just has to be assumed not waived though. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,891 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 What about other party accepting? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 This whole deadline has been a fuckery. But in my not at all official opinion, this trade probably shouldn't go through. If not for the 8:01 PM acceptance (which I'm fine with honestly), then because Covington wasn't on Cologne when this trade was posted. That said, to play my own devil's advocate, if the original trade was posted as a three-way trade with this deal included, it would be fine. So in a way this could be considered a three-way trade to the original. But officially it isn't, so idk. You guys are all stupid. BOOM, gregreg, NotAVHLM-GM and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreg 930 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Welcome to Cologne @BobertZ Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,891 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Agreed Jardy. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 13 hours ago, JardyB10 said: This whole deadline has been a fuckery. But in my not at all official opinion, this trade probably shouldn't go through. If not for the 8:01 PM acceptance (which I'm fine with honestly), then because Covington wasn't on Cologne when this trade was posted. That said, to play my own devil's advocate, if the original trade was posted as a three-way trade with this deal included, it would be fine. So in a way this could be considered a three-way trade to the original. But officially it isn't, so idk. You guys are all stupid. What are you talking about, this would have been voided if Covington did not waive his NTC. Simple. Put it through. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) Robbie never waived his NTC for this trade? I mean he posted in the other thread but never here. I mean it's not like waiving it for one trade means it's waived forever. So..... Edited March 6, 2017 by Molholt NotAVHLM-GM and TheLastOlympian07 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 57 minutes ago, Molholt said: Robbie never waived his NTC for this trade? I mean he posted in the other thread but never here. I mean it's not like waiving it for one trade means it's waived forever. So..... 2.7 – ClausesThere are two types of clauses that can be included in contracts (both are voided if waived once) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,431 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Molholt said: Robbie never waived his NTC for this trade? I mean he posted in the other thread but never here. I mean it's not like waiving it for one trade means it's waived forever. So..... Actually, yes, it is like that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,360 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 On 3/4/2017 at 8:42 PM, Higgins said: For as long as I've been a GM it's been, has to be posted before the deadline. You've only been GM for a season tho.. Higgins 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 7 hours ago, Higgins said: What are you talking about, this would have been voided if Covington did not waive his NTC. Simple. Put it through. I think Jardy was more talking about making and posting an official trade before a player was even legally on a roster. If it wasn't the deadline, you wouldn't post this trade until you knew if Robbie waived or not. Because you had no choice but to wait, should this trade be considered legal? Technically you tried to put in an official trade before a player was put on a roster. But this whole mess (that I ironically started) is for you guys to sort out. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted March 6, 2017 Commissioner Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Devise said: I think Jardy was more talking about making and posting an official trade before a player was even legally on a roster. If it wasn't the deadline, you wouldn't post this trade until you knew if Robbie waived or not. Because you had no choice but to wait, should this trade be considered legal? Technically you tried to put in an official trade before a player was put on a roster. But this whole mess (that I ironically started) is for you guys to sort out. That's how I've been looking at this whole mess. Personally I'm fine with the trade to Cologne and I understand the argument that players should be able to waive after the deadline. That just makes logical sense. But the problem isn't Robbie waiving for this trade, it's him waiving for the other one. When this trade was posted Zimmers wasn't on the team so the trade would effectively be void until such time as he was; putting it past the deadline. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreg 930 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 #Cologne4Cup Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Just Higgins trying to get away with things because of his member colour. Higgins 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,045 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/38367-hskcol-s53/#findComment-418756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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