Official 2014-15 NFL Discussion Thread

[Guest]

Peterson has to turn himself in. He used a switch on his son. (Switch refers to a flexible piece of wood used to spank). Sad really that he gets caught disciplining his child. I don;t see any harm in that

[Fire Tortorella 2,653]

You don't see anything wrong in using a switch?

[Guest]

You don't see anything wrong in using a switch?

Really depends on what exactly the switch was. A branch? A spoon? I was disciplined with a wooden spoon as a boy and I never angered my parents after that for fear of the spoon.

[eaglesfan036 4,603]

"cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands. "

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/12/report-peterson-admitted-to-whooping-son-with-a-switch/

Edited September 13, 2014 by eaglesfan036

[Guest]

Nowhere did I say I support what he did, but keep in mind what I was reading it was still very young in the news reports so they had describe it as beating his son with a spoon/stick to discipline him. Now it turns out it is aggressive.

 

Anyone know what happened to the boyfriend of the mom? He killed Adrians other child.

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Roger Goodell Made $44 Million Last Year. The NFL Is Still a Non-Profit. In all of America's 150 largest non-profits, there is not another executive who is paid 1/10th of what Roger Goodell is. Here's what that looks like — and how it got this way.

 

 

College presidents, hospital executives and heads of charities all operate services that aim to better the world. You might expect one of them to be the most compensated leader of a non-profit in the US.

It’s actually Roger Goodell, the Commissioner of the NFL.

While the NFL was busy attempting to sue pop star M.I.A. for $16 million because she extended her middle finger during the Super Bowl halftime show in 2012, Goodell made a grand total of $44.2 million in a 12-month period that ended on March 31 of last year, SportsBusiness Daily reports.

Goodell’s base salary is listed at $3.5 million with a $40.36 million bonus on the league’s tax return.

 

 

His most recent total was an increase from the $29.49 million he earned according to the league’s 2011 tax return that covered April 1, 2011 to March 31, 2012.

It is difficult to say when Goodell became the most compensated leader since salary information for the person with the second-highest non-profit salary in 2012, Gary Radine, was not available. Radine’s 2011 salary was $18,202,904 which was nearly $7 million more than the $11,554,000 million Goodell made in the same year.

The NFL claims that the lockout is the true cause of the $44.2 million total, telling SBD that $9.1 million of that total was deferred salary. Even then, unless Radine got a 300% raise—and there are no reports claiming he did—Goodell is still the highest paid head of a non-profit organization.

Goodell is lapping the field when it comes to salaries as his $29.49 million figure is almost triple the salary of the next head which was the $10.6 million that Joseph Trunfio earned during the 2012 calendar year at Atlantic Health Inc.

 

 

We’ve compiled 150 of the highest earning non-profits using the publicly available 990 forms and we’ve compared his salary to each organization’s top executive. Goodell’s $29.49 million total in 2011 was more than ten times the average head’s compensation. That total is also greater than the sum of the next five salaries. His total in 2012 is greater than the combined salaries of the next four heads. He also made more than all the school presidents included in the top 150 combined.

If you’re wondering why the NFL is a non-profit in the first place, look at its modern origins. The AFL’s survival in the early-to-mid ‘60s convinced NFL owners that the two leagues could merge together for the betterment of the owners in both leagues. Once the owners agreed to a merger, the only stumbling block that remained was Congress. A law needed to be passed in order to allow the NFL to be exempt from antitrust law.

After successfully lobbying two key Louisiana congressmen, the exemption was granted and signed by President Lyndon Johnson. The NFL was now allowed to function as a non-profit trade association for all its teams. For their trouble, the congressmen’s home state was rewarded with a new franchise, the New Orleans Saints, one month after the bill was signed.

The two leagues created a combined championship game, which would come to be known as the Super Bowl. New television contracts were formed with CBS, NBC and, in a new venture, ABC would broadcast games on Monday night.

 

 

The league’s economics, its health issues and recent discriminatory workplace dramas provide a solid foundation to base a legal attack against the league’s non-profit status. Senator Tom Coburn made that case in recent months, but there hasn’t been much progress.

There are only four organizations included on the list that function primarily for sport. The Prairie Meadows Racetrack & Casino’s Gary Palmer was the only one to not receive a seven-figure salary.

Coburn says there is no justification for the league to be tax-exempt. The taxman is not going to cripple the league by taking a small share of its extraordinary income.

So what’s the point of letting the league function as-is? The league told USA Today that its function as a trade association justifies its standing. The NFL contends that all of the income it distributes to its 32 clubs, $4.3 billion, is taxable. But that’s because the 32 clubs are for-profit.

 

The NFL functions as a 501© 6. Here’s what that means according to the IRS:

A business league as an association of persons having a common business interest, whose purpose is to promote the common business interest and not to engage in a regular business of a kind ordinarily carried on for profit. Its activities are directed to the improvement of business conditions of one or more lines of business rather than the performance of particular services for individual persons.

The second sentence is why the NFL describes itself in its 990 form as a “trade association promoting interests of its 32 member clubs.”

But note the last bit of the first sentence: “to not to engage in a regular business of a kind ordinarily carried on for profit.” While the PGA Tour and NHL operate as non-profits under the same decree, the MLB, MLS and NBA are considered for-profit enterprises. 

The NFL’s sweetheart deal from the ‘70s is still paying off, and it’s not helping anybody more than Roger Goodell.

[Guest]

May not surprise some people, I am not. Not a Goodell fan and certainly not a fan of the way he resolves issues.

[TurnDaddy 323]

Not surprised he leads that category, but I am surprised it's more than what all those 150 School Presidents combined make. 

[diamond_ace 3,112]

So there's this fantasy league that I'm in with Turner/Jonessee (and several other sim leaguers from football/basketball). Some of you who have been in leagues for other sports might know Tits McGee, Nick Catania? Anyway, he was in a match this week against this other team and won by a tenth of a point. Final score was Tits McGee 98.2, other guy 98.1, I would be so pissed if I was the other guy.

[Guest]

I beat Trifecta by 2.02 points.

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As expected, I lost to Mike this week. Now 0-2 and should have little trouble achieving my goal of going winless this season.

[Guest Svoboda_3]

Let's quit calling it a switch, it's a stick or a paddle for fuck sakes. At first I was like, "he beat his kid with a light toggle switch? Like how do you do that?"

 

I got the belt as a child as a form of discipline, but it never was to the extent where I was bleeding. Using a stick to create welts or gashes on a child, including on his scrotum (what the fuck), is now going beyond disciplining your child. That's child abuse and assault on a minor.

 

The NFL needs to quit worrying about disciplining it's players for touchdown celebrations and focus more on removing the garbage taking place by the players.

[Fire Tortorella 2,653]

From what I understand a "switch" is a term used in the Southern US. I had to google it as well.

[Guest Svoboda_3]

Well we all know how confused the south is, so it doesn't surprise me that they make up odd names for shit.

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NFL Players as Simpson characters....

 

 

Sproles set to Super Mario music

 

[boubabi 4,725]

Patriots' offense not as good as they were before. 

 

When the kicker is the best player #OAKproblems

Carr plays good though

[frescoelmo 1,276]

S-U-C-K SUCK SUCK SUCK

[Guest]

Alright give me some help here.

 

I have: Calvin Johnson WR Detroit & Bobby Rainey RB Tampa Bay

 

Other guy has: Stevie Johnson WR San Fran & Demarco Murray RB Dallas

 

Do I swap this? I don't really have good RB's. My other RB's are Alfred Blue, Doug Martin and Deangelo Williams. My other WR's are Mohammed Sanu, Keenan Allen, Malcom Floyd and Dwayne Bowe.

[Da Trifecta 1,899]

I wouldnt do that and I am a 9ers fan

Edited September 23, 2014 by Da Trifecta

[frescoelmo 1,276]

Alright give me some help here.

 

I have: Calvin Johnson WR Detroit & Bobby Rainey RB Tampa Bay

 

Other guy has: Stevie Johnson WR San Fran & Demarco Murray RB Dallas

 

Do I swap this? I don't really have good RB's. My other RB's are Alfred Blue, Doug Martin and Deangelo Williams. My other WR's are Mohammed Sanu, Keenan Allen, Malcom Floyd and Dwayne Bowe.

 

Rainey is a handcuff and I would never take a SF WR...  So if you think Murray for Johnson straight up is good, then go for it.  Most leagues would value RB's over WR's too.  How many starting positions are there on your roster?  You have 2 decent WR2's, you could probably live with no true WR1 if you can use an RB as a flex.

[Guest]

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE - No Flex.

[frescoelmo 1,276]

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE - No Flex.

 

I think the deal kind of hinges on how comfortable you are with having a SF receiver on a run-heavy team with a stupid amount of talent-position players.  Stevie had a nice game yesterday but he was also getting Vernon Davis' touches, a clear TE1.

[Guest]

I think the deal kind of hinges on how comfortable you are with having a SF receiver on a run-heavy team with a stupid amount of talent-position players.  Stevie had a nice game yesterday but he was also getting Vernon Davis' touches, a clear TE1.

I just looked at the guy I was trading with's team.

 

Ryan Broyles (DET), Victor Cruz (NYG), Reuben Randle (NYG), Golden Tate (DET), Rashard Jennings (NYG), Larry Donnell (NYG). So it's evident he wants Calvin to go with his Giants/Lion agenda. I'm not conformable with Murray/Johnson straight up cause Doomsday gave me the scouting report on Murray and he can run but he fumbles a lot. Rainey had a shit game and cost me a win this week by fumbling twice. Martin comes back this week from injury and after those two fumbles by Rainey will see more time. Maybe I should look into trading Rainey elsewhere for a receiver?

[frescoelmo 1,276]

I just looked at the guy I was trading with's team.

 

Ryan Broyles (DET), Victor Cruz (NYG), Reuben Randle (NYG), Golden Tate (DET), Rashard Jennings (NYG), Larry Donnell (NYG). So it's evident he wants Calvin to go with his Giants/Lion agenda. I'm not conformable with Murray/Johnson straight up cause Doomsday gave me the scouting report on Murray and he can run but he fumbles a lot. Rainey had a shit game and cost me a win this week by fumbling twice. Martin comes back this week from injury and after those two fumbles by Rainey will see more time. Maybe I should look into trading Rainey elsewhere for a receiver?

 

Yeah man if you can get anything for Rainey I'd take that in an instant. 

 

Not sure why someone would want an entire offense, that seems highly unproductive.

[Guest]

Yeah man if you can get anything for Rainey I'd take that in an instant. 

 

Not sure why someone would want an entire offense, that seems highly unproductive.

Yeah and why the Giants offence? Eli either throws to Cruz or the other teams secondary.