Guest Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Media is a lie. If they believe Sam should be seen as any other player then treat him like one and stop bring in his sexuality in every single subject about it. This "being gay in sports" and "breaking barriers" and what not is great but the day it becomes irrelevant news is the day equality in sports is reached. I understand he's the first, but really why not talk about his on field life like they should. Exactly. I have not heard one thing about his stats and the way he plays. Note: I do know his stats and accolades, as well as the reason he fell, but it would be nice if they told you that on air. Edited May 11, 2014 by Kendrick Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-71888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Check this out boys, I laughed pretty hard. http://www.buzzfeed.com/samir/some-people-on-twitter-have-a-problem-with-nfl-player-michae?bffb Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-71932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Media is a lie. If they believe Sam should be seen as any other player then treat him like one and stop bring in his sexuality in every single subject about it. This "being gay in sports" and "breaking barriers" and what not is great but the day it becomes irrelevant news is the day equality in sports is reached. I understand he's the first, but really why not talk about his on field life like they should. and it's the people supporting Sam's job to ignore it, not the vocal minority against it? We should celebrate it because the NFL is the most "macho" league and the sooner we break down the stereotypes about gay men the better for society. This is a huge thing, please don't knock it down to "well we should just ignore it we we want true equality". The next one we should ignore, but this is special. Seriously this is like saying we should ignore Jackie Robinson in the 50's being black lol. It seems like a great idea in theory, but Sam is going to be an icon for gay athletes in high school and college. This is not just another athlete being drafted, it's a league wide acceptance of tolerance. I don't know if the NHL would be ready for this, or the mlb but the nfl is and that's pretty cool. Edited May 11, 2014 by Tyler Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-71939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong but Kordell Stewart had come out while still playing. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 NFL Kordell? No? He got married in 2011 but eventually divorced but this is way after his playing career. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 NFL Kordell? No? He got married in 2011 but eventually divorced but this is way after his playing career. No way back in 2001 Kordell Stewart was publicly brought out as being gay, it was common knowledge too. I heard that way before I started playing the game Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) No way back in 2001 Kordell Stewart was publicly brought out as being gay, it was common knowledge too. I heard that way before I started playing the gameI think it was rumours that people were making of him because he was "seen" at gay parks or something and someone made up a rumour of him bangin a dude in a limo. He never publically came out and said himself that he was gay. He quit because everyone was treating him like he came out when in reality he didn't because his play was falling off. I just remember it being the media ruining this guy. (when I say remember I mean reading stories on it a few years ago. I'd have no idea what that stuff is about at the age of 7 lol.) Edited May 11, 2014 by 8Ovechkin8 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle 667 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNvLP-WI5g Lets go beeeels. Big price to pay for this kid, better live up to it or we will continue in mediocrity. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle 667 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Also, not happy about moving Stevie Johnson and I was the farthest thing from a fan of his. Think moving him makes us a worse team than last year. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I think it was rumours that people were making of him because he was "seen" at gay parks or something and someone made up a rumour of him bangin a dude in a limo. He never publically came out and said himself that he was gay. He quit because everyone was treating him like he came out when in reality he didn't because his play was falling off. I just remember it being the media ruining this guy. (when I say remember I mean reading stories on it a few years ago. I'd have no idea what that stuff is about at the age of 7 lol.) Yeah it's a shame because from what I gathered at the time (Age 13), he was a talented guy and a class act. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 toews doin' what toews does. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,157 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 toews doin' what toews does. Bo knows baseball? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 toews doin' what toews does. Something tell me Toews plays on the Seahawks, right? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-72366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Chiefs: Release Brandon Flowers (CB) Lions: Release Chris Houston (CB) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-83626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I miss football Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-83629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 http://www.theonion.com/articles/johnny-manziel-forced-to-wear-cleveland-browns-jer,36660/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Pic%3A2%3ADefault Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-106826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) As a Bills fan I am forced into over optimism each season Billieving (yes) my team is going to not only win every game during the season but win the super bowl. Each season is "THE" season until a few weeks in becomes "There is always next season". The defense is good no one around the league dismisses that along with the great running system in place. However I follow the team daily and this season definitely feels different it feels real. Sammy Watkins seems to be legit and not legit hes a #1 WR but legit he could be one of the better receivers in the league. This week the Bills have been in PA practicing against the Steelers before their pre-season game on Saturday. I just can't stop smiling about the plays like this that Watkins keeps delivering every day in practice he just shames the Steeler DB. Edited August 15, 2014 by Mike Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-108049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Just wait until they play competition in the other conference. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-108057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Well if they stick to how defensive holding/interference from preseason has been called who knows. The Bills have a good secondary too and no one has been able to cover him. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-108063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 No offence but the Steelers secondary aint too pretty anyways. Ike Taylor is actually on the butt end of jokes so much that he is in a song. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-108064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I completely agree their defense in general is just getting too old and this was nothing but a practice. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-108076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Jordan Matthews ROTY GOAT HOF Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-108080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 EJ has me worried Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-108489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 EJ has me worried At least its not ED. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-108495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spangle 49 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I've done this before and decided to do it again. I went through all the teams' schedules, did wins and losses and what not and this is what I came up with: (Accuracy of this will sit around 0-.01%) NFC East Philadelphia (10-6) Dallas (8-8) New York (8-8) Washington (7-9) NFC North Chicago (11-5) Green Bay (11-5) Detroit (10-6) Minnesota (3-13) NFC South New Orleans (10-6) Carolina (9-7) Atlanta (8-8) Tampa Bay (4-12) NFC West Seattle (13-3) San Francisco (11-5) Arizona (8-8) St. Louis (7-9) Notes: -Yes, the playoffs are very similar. No, that will not happen. -Minnesota and Tampa Bay's awful records and indicative of their very good divisions. I actually think both of them are good. -I like Arizona and St. Louis a lot, but I think that San Francisco and Seattle are just too strong and that will cripple their records. If either make them playoffs, I would not be surprised. -The North and South are up in the air. I could really see Detroit, Carolina, or Atlanta sliding into one of those playoffs spots. NFC Playoffs San Francisco over Philadelphia New Orleans over Green Bay San Francisco over Seattle Chicago over New Orleans San Francisco over Chicago Notes: -I think this may be the 49ers' year in the NFC if Kaepernick can take another step forward. New Orelans gets the edge over Green Bay because they play at home, but once they head to the cold in Chicago, Brees freezes alive and they lose. -I could absolutely see Chicago making a run, it just depends on how their defense plays since we all know their offense will likely be one of the best in the league with Cutler, Forte, Marshall, Jeffrey, and Bennett. AFC East New England (11-5) Buffalo (7-9) Miami (7-9) New York (4-12) AFC North Pittsburgh (11-5) Cincinnati (10-6) Baltimore (8-8) Cleveland (4-12) AFC South Indianapolis (12-4) Houston (5-11) Tennessee (5-11) Jacksonville (3-13) AFC West Denver (12-4) Kansas City (8-8) San Diego (7-9) Oakland (3-13) Notes: -I think the Jets take a step back due to horrendous quarterback play. I expect to see Geno get benched in favor of Vick and then they realize how horrible Vick is and cry themselves to sleep at night. -I think Manuel and Tannehill take a small step forward, allowing improved play from both Buffalo and Miami. -Yes, the playoffs look similar to last season here too. No, it won't happen here either. -I think the AFC South is the worst division in football. Not a huge statement though. -I could see both Kansas City and San Diego being better, but I couldn't really find them many additional wins. AFC Playoffs New England over Kansas City Pittsburgh over Cincinnati Denver over Pittsburgh Indianapolis over New England Indianapolis over Denver Notes: -Gut feeling on Indy over Denver. -Alex Smith is not a championship guy. -I had Cincy beating Pittsburgh twice in the regular season, hard to beat a team three times and they can't do it here. Plus, a ginger is not allowed to win the Super Bowl. Super Bowl San Francisco over Indianapolis Notes: -Defense wins championships, but a good offense doesn't hurt. Kaepernick will improve thanks to the addition of Stevie Johnson on top of Boldin and Crabtree. He finally gets to click with Crabtree since he actually manages to stay healthy. The running game of Gore/Hyde/James/Lattimore also plays a very key role in the offensive attack. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-108821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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