Admin Victor 10,940 Posted June 10, 2019 Admin Share Posted June 10, 2019 So @Positivefan036 has inspired my VHL.com article for this week by talking about how he should be a Builder. He presents a solid case for himself but made me wonder - what is it that we look for in Builders when deciding on them in the Hall of Fame? Well here's a spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KYxzieOVyjsU5ULnYetUHdTKVEHbfEcV9BM2Wxjv2g8/edit?usp=sharing So, there have been 33 Builders inducted into the VHL Hall of Fame since the first Builder induction in S19. Of these, 30 have been VHL GMs at one point or another, and 24 have been members of the Board of Governors. The concepts seem to go hand in hand but it almost feels like in most cases those two roles come from being a Builder rather than helping someone's case as a Builder (with a few obvious exceptions like Pensfan, Greg, Mike and perhaps in the future someone like Bana, hedgehog or Bushito). There's a few entries who have some unique roles like setting up the VHL Magazine, or doing a lot of GFX, or contributing to recruitment. Guaranteed boubabi would have gotten in on that basis alone if he hadn't lost his head. Looking forward, there's probably a role there for someone like Beaviss, although he probably needs another 10-15 seasons under his belt. 21 of the Builders have been either VHL or VHLM commissioner (Smarch and flyersfan spending some time in both roles). That understandably goes a long way, and while I am fairly certain we've inducted every VHL commish other than Quik, I don't have a full memory of all VHLM commishes and don't know if anyone other than eaglesfan and Bana is waiting for their call. I know Damien was VHLM commish for a bit but there might have been other omissions (Corco? Probably). Overall, there's no real rhyme or reason to who gets into the HOF as a Builder - there's not even a guaranteed slot every season. But eaglesfan's little self promotion might just be enough to get him as on all accounts it is merited. Shaka, eaglesfan036 and Corco 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 The one thing ill never get but nice to see so many people in with grest contributions to keep this league running. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 You do what needs to be done around the league without tooting your own horn. eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Victor said: Looking forward, there's probably a role there for someone like Beaviss, although he probably needs another 10-15 seasons under his belt. Another 5 years... Ouch Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Admin Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Beaviss said: Another 5 years... Ouch Only 2 and a bit with 2-month seasons. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Victor said: Only 2 and a bit with 2-month seasons. Thought it was 3 months a season. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Admin Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Beaviss said: Thought it was 3 months a season. Nah, 8 weeks is standard but then off-seasons have to be accounted for as well. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Josh 1,670 Posted June 10, 2019 Commissioner Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) It would be interesting to see how long each person had been involved prior to induction. Edited June 10, 2019 by Josh. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Josh. said: It would be interesting to see how long each person had been involved prior to induction. This is the kind of question that @Victor loves eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Admin Share Posted June 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Josh. said: It would be interesting to see how long each person had been involved prior to induction. I've thrown in some rough numbers into the spreadsheet - doesn't account for any absences in between and obviously the fact most people will have contributed more at the start of their time than near the end (with a few exceptions). 20 seasons+ is a pretty good guide but depends on scale of achievements etc. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted June 10, 2019 Senior Admin Share Posted June 10, 2019 Only person on this sheet with 5 unique items god builder unless you count historian Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Will said: Only person on this sheet with 5 unique items god builder unless you count historian I'm at 4 ill catch you dad! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Admin Share Posted June 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Will said: unless you count historian making sure you had something to fill the portal out with Will 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted June 10, 2019 Senior Admin Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Victor said: making sure you had something to fill the portal out with Fair point. You are worthy. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, flyersfan1453 said: You do what needs to be done around the league without tooting your own horn. @Positivefan036 that was a compliment... eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted June 10, 2019 Commissioner Share Posted June 10, 2019 FWIW I hadn’t been commish, Simmer, or BOG until after I was inducted. My article really needs some updating haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,564 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 can i be a builder Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Nykonax said: can i be a builder If you build it, they will come. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,602 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Nykonax said: can i be a builder Bob the Builder Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I helped implement the largely successful two player project, served as VHLM Commissioner, ran the VHL magazine for a bit, did some sigs for people. These are all super valid reasons that I should be in. Oh and also GM'd the Toronto Legion three-peat, the first and only of it's kind! /s Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-630719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I think in the extra column, my length of time writing for the mag (basically as long as it was a thing) and briefly in charge of it, could make it into that column. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-635505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.sniffuM 1,741 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I like to think at one point in my VHL history I was actually a dark horse candidate to be inducted as a builder. Also Beaviss should already be a builder tbh. The league is so far beyond where it's ever been when it comes to active members and recruiting, the league could have died by now without his efforts. Rayzor_7, diamond_ace and Devise 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-635506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 6:00 PM, .sniffuM said: I like to think at one point in my VHL history I was actually a dark horse candidate to be inducted as a builder. Also Beaviss should already be a builder tbh. The league is so far beyond where it's ever been when it comes to active members and recruiting, the league could have died by now without his efforts. Agreed on both fronts although I'll say I don't think with @Beaviss it's a matter of resume. Just pecking order other names to get in allowing him a few more seasons to solidify his already well justified case to get in. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-636196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,899 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Just do the opposite of what I do. eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-636199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Devise said: Agreed on both fronts although I'll say I don't think with @Beaviss it's a matter of resume. Just pecking order other names to get in allowing him a few more seasons to solidify his already well justified case to get in. Thanks for the vote of confidence Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/#findComment-636204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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