Banackock 8,044 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 It seems like the last couple of seasons (more specifically, since Season 50ish), the league has found itself in quite the situation. Members who have been on the VHL since the stone ages have been dropping like annoying, pesky fruit flies in your summertime kitchens. Members who once contributed so much to this site are now either gone completely or logging in and appearing as ghost like figures. Many around the boards have been bitching, whining or kicking up a storm. "The league is dying, the league is dying" one little @Bushito exclaimed. One can't help but think he's a little silly given past patterns of league quietness, but some like @punkhippie and @BobertZ seem to think he's right. In fact, a recent call from @Higgins and numerous members of the B.O.G @Beketov + @Devise + @ADV etc have even come on saying changes need to happen - members need to come together. They've also expressed some things needing to be added or subtracted from the VHL. Others, like the welfare system, also caught some punishment from a wide range of VHL users such as @jRuutu, @boubabi and company. The things we all have been focusing on lately are things we dislike. The fact that this has disappeared, or this went away. We miss them, or her or him. We hate how some people bitch and cry 24/7 and cause shit storms on the daily. We dislike how inactive players reap similar rewards that very active players get. The list goes on and on. In my eyes, it's a flawed system . We list off the things we dislike or hate about the site. I recently posted an article and received so much attention (it shocked me). This is good. Yet, it was bad. We started talking about the we disliked. It instantly and drastically caused a divide among members (something we don't need right now). At a time when we should come together, it seems a greater divide is occurring. We need to start focusing on what good the league has. Thus, here is a quick list of things I enjoy on the VHL (or reasons I log in most days). 1. I love the idea it offers - make a player, not just "be a GM of an NHL team". I've been in GM leagues for years and years now. If I had to throw a number on it, I'd guess somewhere around 8+ years. It's hard to believe given my age, but it could actually be even more. Hockey is a huge passion of mine. I'ma huge Oilers fan and played hockey competitively as a kid and growing up. Being Canadian, the NHL was always a dream in the back of my eyes. Due to reasons left unexplained, the dream eventually faded. This is the closest I can get. Offering a different variety to the normal GM leagues is something I love. 2. The community is much more relaxed than the SHL It seems like all the children go on to play over in the SHL, where we have the more mature community. Sure, it could be because the more people you have, the more assholes you have, but it doesn't overly seem to be the case here. We have a solid group of members. We argue, we bicker. Sometimes we don't get along. I like to think at the end of the day though we have a solid community of people here. This is something that everyone needs to learn to understand. 3. Opportunity I'm a GM. I GM'd Bratislava for 5 seasons and than moved onto the Bears for 8. While we haven't had huge success under my reign, we've had great seasons and the start was a learning curve. It's unlike any other league I've managed in, so it took awhile to gain experience. I feel more confident now. While the role has it's hardships (with fully enjoying players), I love the role and will always give 100%. My goal is to bring a cup to Seattle. What I like about the VHL is that if you want something, you can become it. Updater, GM, commissioner, mag writer etc. If you want it, put in the time and activity - it's yours. No hate, no discriminate. 4. Update Scale I like that shit. Way more than the SHL tbh, but different rates of earning tpe is the one to blame for that. Now, let's see how easy it is for the VHL community to list off something they like about the VHL. AAAANNNND... GO! And with that, claim 6 for Forsberg please. Spade18, jRuutu and Exlaxchronicles 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I like how passionately you write media spots Banackock 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,044 Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bushito said: I like how passionately you write media spots Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,896 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I like how you have an infatuation for Moon Banackock 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I like how I have managed to be here on and off for 10 years and how there are some great people. to the second point, maybe the shl needs a prolonged dose of Anderson Banackock 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 i like the career length tbh, sure itd be fun to play forever but having it at 8 seasons keeps things fresh, im not opposed to 10 seasons though i think that is perfect anyway that is a 'decade' and it'd be just right in my opinion. Banackock 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,044 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, TheLastOlympian07 said: i like the career length tbh, sure itd be fun to play forever but having it at 8 seasons keeps things fresh, im not opposed to 10 seasons though i think that is perfect anyway that is a 'decade' and it'd be just right in my opinion. Totally agree, man! Also may give people a little more time in their "prime". I think it would be a small risk by the league to change the career, but it would pay off. We have the two player thing, so there shouldn't be an issue with drafts. Also, we just have to recruit more ! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,022 Posted September 19, 2017 Commissioner Share Posted September 19, 2017 No love from @DollarAndADream I'm not going to go naming a bunch of people but for me the VHL has always been, and continues to be, about the community. I had an entire season real early on where I couldn't do shit all with my player so I learned to enjoy other aspects of the site. We may not always get along but the community aspect of the league is what keeps me here. I've left the SHL more times than I can count because the member base is just too damn toxic. Do they have more active members than us? Probably. But I would take 1 VHL member over 10 SHL members any day. Also, I said I wouldn't mention specific names but I do want to throw a shoutout to @Beaviss. Our retention isn't always the best so it's always great to see young blood so invested in the league from the get go. Banackock and Beaviss 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 53 minutes ago, Beketov said: No love from @DollarAndADream I'm not going to go naming a bunch of people but for me the VHL has always been, and continues to be, about the community. I had an entire season real early on where I couldn't do shit all with my player so I learned to enjoy other aspects of the site. We may not always get along but the community aspect of the league is what keeps me here. I've left the SHL more times than I can count because the member base is just too damn toxic. Do they have more active members than us? Probably. But I would take 1 VHL member over 10 SHL members any day. Also, I said I wouldn't mention specific names but I do want to throw a shoutout to @Beaviss. Our retention isn't always the best so it's always great to see young blood so invested in the league from the get go. Hey, buddy, we haven't played together a ton and that's where most of my VHL memories come from! It wasn't until Holik and Parechkin in Seattle, and now obviously in Toronto. I enjoyed your vidcasts when I was watching them more, and tend to agree with most of what you're saying in threads. Also you make sick sigs. Branching off of that, I always find it odd in a great way how many great graphics guys there seem to be in these leagues. Photoshoppers seem to just flock to these kinds of things, and that's pretty cool. I'm a lot better than I used to be, even though I'm still not much compared to the Gods. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,022 Posted September 19, 2017 Commissioner Share Posted September 19, 2017 30 minutes ago, DollarAndADream said: Branching off of that, I always find it odd in a great way how many great graphics guys there seem to be in these leagues. Photoshoppers seem to just flock to these kinds of things, and that's pretty cool. I'm a lot better than I used to be, even though I'm still not much compared to the Gods. I'm not sure if photoshoppers flock to leagues or if leagues make photoshoppers haha. I had never touched any GFX program until I joined the ESHL years ago and I know most people were the same way. Podcasts weren't a think back then so if you didn't want to right you better get damn good at making sigs haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Beketov said: I'm not sure if photoshoppers flock to leagues or if leagues make photoshoppers haha. I had never touched any GFX program until I joined the ESHL years ago and I know most people were the same way. Podcasts weren't a think back then so if you didn't want to right you better get damn good at making sigs haha That's what happened to me. I was sick of writing stuff week after week. There's only so many articles you can write before you need a break. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,022 Posted September 19, 2017 Commissioner Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, DollarAndADream said: That's what happened to me. I was sick of writing stuff week after week. There's only so many articles you can write before you need a break. Exactly haha. You'll get better at GFX, it comes with time. I've posted my first one a few times though it has been awhile since I have. I don't think it's link is even live anymore but trust me, it's an absolute piece of shit. Most people are the same. It takes time to develop the skills to do it. Even at my peak (which I'm nowhere near anymore) I was never as good as some people. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Gotta say, i wasnt expecting you to last long in your gm job but you did pretty good Gg Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 hours ago, boubabi said: Gotta say, i wasnt expecting you to last long in your gm job but you did pretty good Gg Me? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 15 hours ago, DollarAndADream said: I like @Frank, @Pablo, and @STZ. Those Quebec City Meute years with Thomassen, Wolf, Boychuk, Waldron, and Wylde were some great ones. They were my first real seasons in the VHL on a contending team for multiple seasons. I know, I know, I won 3 cups in a row with @Molholt and @CowboyinAmerica......but those Meute days will always feel extra special with Boychuk being my first player. Obviously the 3peat was fucking nasty though. squawwww Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,896 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Confirmed @DollarAndADream hates me Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 8 hours ago, KGR said: Confirmed @DollarAndADream hates me You're actually in there it just didn't tag it. There's an @KGR in there. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/44069-claimed-what-do-i-love-about-the-vhl/#findComment-470960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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