Affiliate TPE Opportunity

[Beketov 9,102]

Good morning, VHL!

 

This morning we have a TPE Opportunity that will be the first of (hopefully) many more initiatives cross-league between the VHL, SBA, and EFL.

 

Starting Today and running through Sunday, March 31, you may complete the following Writing Prompt below for 2 uncapped TPE!

 

Prompt: Write 150 words or more (as a reply to this topic) about a feature in the SBA or EFL that you would like to see the VHL adopt. This can be on the forums, within the league itself, within the portal - any feature or mechanic that one of the other two leagues have that the VHL does not. A short podcast (VHL Radio length) would also suffice.

 

For the graphics guys, you may create a graphic of a player from either the SBA or EFL to claim this.

 

In addition, by completing this prompt - you may ALSO claim this 2 TPE in the SBA and EFL. These leagues have already posted their own Affiliate PT prompts in this initiative - you may only claim the 2 TPE once per league. You may not claim the 2 TPE from our prompt and the 2 TPE from the SBA prompt. 

 

Any questions please leave below, and I will be happy to answer them. Looking forward to seeing some of the answers!

 

@Members

[majesiu 58]

https://sba.today/forums/index.php?/topic/36973-announcement-tpe-opportuntity-affiliate-pt/&do=findComment&comment=643057 sba link

[DMaximus 1,046]

I think the VHL should adopt the ability to earn capped TPE by writing comments in game threads. This feature is something both the SBA (Sim Attendance) and the EFL (Gameday Live Presentations) offer. For the VHL, it could be setup where you earn 1/2 TPE for a comment of at least 25 words in a game thread, with a max of 2 capped TPE per week.

 

I think the benefit to the VHL would be that more agents would be more active in the game forum. Agents would be able to describe how a game went for their individual player and their team or even take shots at their opponent. More active game threads could lead to an increase in rivalries between agents, players, and teams. Teammates would be brought closer together through fun discussion about a common opponent or shared experience. Active game threads could even be a way to look back historically and remember specific moments in a player’s career. Passion and excitement for your player or team’s performance is easy fuel to write a short comment. The incentive to increase discussion of individual games and ease of writing a short comment about a sim to earn TPE would help make more agents active in the VHL. Increased participation is a very good thing.

[Gustav 6,469]

First of all, a disclaimer: I am not a member of the EFL or the SBA, so I'm basing my answer here on what I found most interesting based on what I've collected from checking out both sites. 

 

While the EFL has many of the same TPE activities that we do here in the VHL, whether it be graphics, articles, what-have-you, I noticed that their pick 'em threads, along with the Guess the Score threads, are organized in a separate category called "Weekly Games." First of all, I'd like to point out how difficult sites like these can be to navigate for new members--5 minutes after I created my player, I almost logged off for good because I couldn't figure it out. Having things like these in a clearly displayed, clearly designated thread on the front page of the site does wonders for the learning process, and, I'd argue, would certainly help with new member retention--though I may have things largely figured out by now, my first few days on this site weren't all that fun, because I had absolutely no idea what was going on. (I'd like to make another paragraph here but my enter key decided to randomly quit on me so whatever) The EFL also, in this thread, has a few games that aren't present in the VHL: the Stat Master game, in which members can guess at stats, both in the sim league and in real life, and the Playoffs Casino Challenge, in which one is given three "tokens" that can be used to bet on winners and in turn exchanged for TPE. I'd be a big fan of either of these being introduced to the VHL, and believe that these changes will make our community a better place.

[rjfryman 1,120]

So This may not be what you want, but One thing that could help us grow is to take a few things and put them together. @DMaximus above has an excellent point in making it so that players can talk more into game threads and get some of the players talking and have more rapport in the forums. One way that I thought was a good idea by SBA is their twitter. I don't necessarily like how they do it with their threads just being a single players twitter but if we mixed and matched it to be where you "Tweet" in game threads where you @people and trash talk and have more fun with the comments and even rivalries where you invade a rivals game thread and put him on blast. And then the old guard can come in and call us a bunch of jerks and so and so on. It would give us more opportunity to make TPE in a way that would encourage game threads to be more of a place to talk and enjoy than just a summary of what is going on. We can have it where it is similar in claiming to reviewing where you have a personal twitter page where you reference your tweets and then quote that page in the TPE claim.

[Bayley 419]

I think that someone made a great point above about having TPE for posting in the sim threads, I think that makes a ton of sense for anyone that wants to get involved in the game more. I think there could be creative ways to do it such as the one above that is a Tweet. I think people need to get more involved in the sim threads. I hate seeing games where there are literally 1 or 2 responses, or even games with 0, that is not helpful at all. I think with SBA and EFL, that is where a lot of the activity comes from. I think it is important to keep that activity up and keep everyone invested. The index is fine to look at, but it's just not interactive and keeping people glued to their screen and wanting to see the next game. I think you'd have more people invested if you had that. 

 

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[TacticalHammer 95]

http://efl.network/topic/10173-affiliate-tpe-opportunity/?do=findComment&comment=161986

[Renomitsu 934]

I’m not sure what league I saw it with (I’ve been out of the game for a while), but I’d also like to test the waters on a ‘theme week’ once or twice a season for Media Spots and Graphics. Lots of players use Welfare – which is an incredible resource for member retention that I’d never do away with – but maybe offer 2-3 uncapped TPE for a Point Task that is in line with a theme (All Stars, WJC/World Cup, etc.). Stick some of the week’s graphics in as headers for World Cup/All Star games or put the Media Spots up for submission and inclusion in a once-per-season VHL Magazine. Don’t make it every week, as that would seriously disadvantage members taking Welfare that also create content for the SBA/EFL. Instead, use this as a way to increase members’ investment in the VHL.

 

I’ll also be the third to agree with @DMaximus. I know I’m not terribly inclined to look at game threads that don’t directly involve my player (except when I’m doing research for media spots or checking for Pick’em/Predict the Score). Encouraging members to write trash talk or even just a GG in game threads a few times a week with TPE requires little effort for implementation, could help foster a better environment among teammates, (maybe even more importantly) set up long-term rivalries.

 

I know sometimes it’s hard to write VHL.com articles (barring some crazy weekend story for some more creative users) because there isn’t as much to talk about outside of game stats; and I think trash talk & hype around games from game thread replies will also encourage people to write more VHL.com/media spot articles.

[Esso2264 774]

30 minutes ago, Renomitsu said:

I’d also like to test the waters on a ‘theme week’

we have this, usually at the half way of the season, probably gonna be next week

[Renomitsu 934]

10 minutes ago, Esso2264 said:

we have this, usually at the half way of the season, probably gonna be next week

This is probably where I saw it then LOL

My bad, like I said I've been out of the game a while

[StamkosFan 72]

https://sba.today/forums/index.php?/topic/36973-announcement-tpe-opportuntity-affiliate-pt/&do=findComment&comment=642841

[cody73 87]

I'm not in either league you mentioned, but I do feel that the VHL could benefit from more TPE stuff, such as having daily trivia instead of weekly, the mentioned TPE for posting in game threads, maybe earning TPE for being a star of the game for your team (1st star = 3 TPE, 2nd Star = 2 , 3rd Star = 1 ?). As of right now, the current system is pretty decent and does allow a player to grow decently quickly, but for those of us who are new and don't know the in and out's of the league, these would be a great way for us to make up ground and to have a bigger impact on the team we play for. I personally just want be able to up my player as fast as I can.... and I've thought about doing other things here & there like writing up an article or doing a podcast, but my issue is that I don't know much about the history of the league, who the big names are, who to look out for when it comes to the VHLM, etc. All I know is that I want to contribute..... and there should be more ways to do so. 

In addition, I feel the league could use some changes when it comes to lines. Having the VHL be only a 2 line league kinda leaves players in no mans land. With the league seeming to have more & more people coming up in this very stacked draft, if a player does get drafted only to find out a team has no space for him to play..... that kinda sucks, at least IMO. 

[gregreg 930]

 

2 tpe thank you 

[Advantage 2,899]

I was one of the founding members of the EFL and was the simmer for the first six seasons or so.  Therefore, I will focus on that league as I know it best and still go on the site here and there.  I’d like to see us adopt the poll system you see on the right of the site.  It’s a great way to be interactive with your community and I think it looks professional as we have seen other sports sites do that in the past.  They incorporate it around the Discord information and the league announcements (which I’d also like to see listed on the front page towards the side).  I feel this creates more exposure for not just the announcements, but also potentially things that the BOG and Blue Team are looking to poll out to make decisions.  More general focus would be excellent to help our site’s younger and older members engaging more in providing our opinions on league issues.

[monkeywrench15 220]

what if you are not in those leagues?

[Thranduil 293]

I think the VHL could add a mechanic to the portal similar to the one on the SBA Online sight (Equivalent of the VHL Portal). On SBA Online, you can enter your updates and apply TPE as soon as you have entered the amount of TPE you are claiming. For example, if I did a graphic, I would then claim the six TPE and instantly apply it. This way, members do not have to wait for updaters before they can apply TPE. They can just apply it once and then take it off their mind for the rest of the week, rather than having to come back a second time after your updates have been approved. Of course, the TPE won't officially be applied to the player until the updaters approve it, but it will be pre-assigned so that there is a better chance of the players' attribute changes making it into the league file in time. I know often, I get my updates in late Friday night and then go to sleep. They may be approved as early as an hour later, but when the league file is updated the next day, I will not have had time to update my player's attributes with the TPE that I have just earned. It would be much simpler if we could do it all as one process. This is a common feature which I have seen used in every league I have been in, aside from VHL, including SHL, NSHL and SBA. I think it would be a beneficial step in the right direction if the VHL followed suit.

 

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[Thranduil 293]

@Beketov can we claim for this immediately or will a separate reward thread be put up at the end of the week?

[Beketov 9,102]

1 hour ago, Thranduil said:

@Beketov can we claim for this immediately or will a separate reward thread be put up at the end of the week?

Once you do it you can claim it.

[Beketov 9,102]

3 hours ago, monkeywrench15 said:

what if you are not in those leagues?

The links are on here and you can see a solid portion of their content the same as they can see ours. At least enough to get a basic understanding. Otherwise it’s not like we’re giving away huge amounts here.

[Beketov 9,102]

2 hours ago, Thranduil said:

I think the VHL could add a mechanic to the portal similar to the one on the SBA Online sight (Equivalent of the VHL Portal). On SBA Online, you can enter your updates and apply TPE as soon as you have entered the amount of TPE you are claiming. For example, if I did a graphic, I would then claim the six TPE and instantly apply it. This way, members do not have to wait for updaters before they can apply TPE. They can just apply it once and then take it off their mind for the rest of the week, rather than having to come back a second time after your updates have been approved. Of course, the TPE won't officially be applied to the player until the updaters approve it, but it will be pre-assigned so that there is a better chance of the players' attribute changes making it into the league file in time. I know often, I get my updates in late Friday night and then go to sleep. They may be approved as early as an hour later, but when the league file is updated the next day, I will not have had time to update my player's attributes with the TPE that I have just earned. It would be much simpler if we could do it all as one process. This is a common feature which I have seen used in every league I have been in, aside from VHL, including SHL, NSHL and SBA. I think it would be a beneficial step in the right direction if the VHL followed suit.

 

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That’s interesting. So basically instead of going to the updated queue they’d be immediately applied or banked and then approved or denied later? Am I understanding that correctly? Might be a bit trickier to code but I’m sure it could be handled.

[Esso2264 774]

14 minutes ago, Beketov said:

That’s interesting. So basically instead of going to the updated queue they’d be immediately applied or banked and then approved or denied later? Am I understanding that correctly? Might be a bit trickier to code but I’m sure it could be handled.

its exactly that

[Thranduil 293]

34 minutes ago, Beketov said:

That’s interesting. So basically instead of going to the updated queue they’d be immediately applied or banked and then approved or denied later? Am I understanding that correctly? Might be a bit trickier to code but I’m sure it could be handled.

Yes, as it would provide more flexibility for both the updaters and the players.

[Beketov 9,102]

42 minutes ago, Thranduil said:

Yes, as it would provide more flexibility for both the updaters and the players.

Not sure I’d call it more flexibility for the updaters but maybe I’m not really thinking it through fully. How do you mean?

[Thranduil 293]

6 hours ago, Beketov said:

Not sure I’d call it more flexibility for the updaters but maybe I’m not really thinking it through fully. How do you mean?

Well not a lot more flexibility, but there wouldn't be as much pressure to get the updates done. If someone sent in their updates and had to leave the next day, they don't have to worry about updaters approving before they can apply TPE, meaning updaters have to worry less as well, as long as they get most of them done by Saturday, when the league file is updated. As I say, it isn't a lot more flexibility, but it's some for both sides. Whether or not the league views this as a worthwhile way to spend their time is up to them, but I like the idea of not having to return to the site just to apply your TPE. This may be going to far, but another idea is to have the cutoff for claiming TPE for that week at the same time as the league file is updated. I've seen this used in SBA and it works well. You type in your updates, apply your TPE, and then on Saturday, the updates are approved, meaning your TPE is set and stone and then the league file is updated. This would be a major change to the updating system and a lot of work to implement, but the league must change to improve.

Edited March 27, 2019 by Thranduil

[BOOM 8,817]

I'm gonna go look in my GFX folder for an efl or sba sig. I have shitloads.