Moderator Baozi 1,662 Posted October 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tate said: truly disagrees with those simplistic values of him and I not being alike Well no you're correct. I'm definitely not suitable for this. I definitely have not mandated everyone to love each other, nor do I provide shelter or food spending money for anyone here. I'm sorry if the goals for my position are not inline with this and I regret not having structured the COC this way as well. Like I said, its unfortunate but not surprising you have no Idea what my values and goals are. frescoelmo and Achilles 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,662 Posted October 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, STZ said: This place is run by clicks Wait technically this is not wrong by any means. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garsh 1,195 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, STZ said: This place is run by clicks I love clicking rory, STZ and Mr_Hatter 2 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles 91 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Spartan said: Critique who you want without breaking conduct rules, I'm just pointing out that you're getting frustrated about something that wasn't even directed to you. I also don't see how me being friendly with someone stops me from pointing out their mistakes. Just doing you a favor and saving you some energy so you can redirect back into productive criticism . but positivity doesn't get me drafted. jk, I get what you are saying man. We are never too far apart regardless how much we disagree. but I do respect you and what you have done for the league, you know that. I have told you many times. I just wish regardless, if it was directed to me, you can see how he treated me, and then make your decision on how he treated him. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tate 450 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, Baozi said: Well no you're correct. I'm definitely not suitable for this. I definitely have not mandated everyone to love each other, nor do I provide shelter or food spending money for anyone here. I'm sorry if the goals for my position are not inline with this and I regret not having structured the COC this way as well. Like I said, its unfortunate but not surprising you have no Idea what my values and goals are. Can I get a C! And an’ Oooooo! Now a P! And an O-U-T!! What is mandated is a safe environment, and you’ve shown today that you offer no such thing in your position of leadership. It’s interesting how you think of my opinions of being old world, when I am far more accepting, and frankly - kind than you are. All you’ve done today is try to drag me through mud, when in reality I’ve just tried to make you see that we stand on the same ground. Yikes bro. Yikes. jRuutu 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles 91 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Baozi said: Wait technically this is not wrong by any means. imagine a mod who blocks you so you can't talk about what just happened. Don't have to. it's you. #UnfitForDuty Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles 91 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, Achilles said: imagine a mod who blocks you discord so you can't talk about what just happened. Don't have to. it's you. #UnfitForDuty Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo 514 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Achilles said: but positivity doesn't get me drafted. jk, I get what you are saying man. We are never too far apart regardless how much we disagree. but I do respect you and what you have done for the league, you know that. I have told you many times. I just wish regardless, if it was directed to me, you can see how he treated me, and then make your decision on how he treated him. what did u do now achilles???? Edited October 19, 2022 by Bobo Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,530 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I believe we need a thread team: Nico Pearce - Ryan Vidot - Nils Godlander Nezuko - The Board Game Clue on Skates - Henri le Massif Biggie Cheese - Hard Markinson Callum Murray - Velociraptor Greg Brandt Fuhr David Davis Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Josh 1,672 Posted October 19, 2022 Commissioner Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spartan said: I believe we need a thread team: Nico Pearce - Ryan Vidot - Nils Godlander Nezuko - The Board Game Clue on Skates - Henri le Massif Biggie Cheese - Hard Markinson Callum Murray - Velociraptor Greg Brandt Fuhr David Davis Backup? Banned. Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles 91 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bobo said: what did u do now achilles???? lol bud not as bad as u think. BOBBo is like my best friend, tell me him to shut me up and I would lol. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,468 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, Spartan said: I believe we need a thread team: Nico Pearce - Ryan Vidot - Nils Godlander Nezuko - The Board Game Clue on Skates - Henri le Massif Biggie Cheese - Hard Markinson Callum Murray - Velociraptor Greg Brandt Fuhr David Davis Art Vandelay jacobcarson877, Nykonax and rory 1 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles 91 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I support the higher investigation. STOP REPLYING. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berocka 2,263 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Achilles said: I support the higher investigation. STOP REPLYING. Are you called Achilles as you like playing the heel? fromtheinside and rory 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 To weigh in Ruutus commentary that got him yeeted was 100% something to punish for, but even when you take into account the things he's said the punishment was really overkill. From what I've gathered from my 2 years here, the mod team seems to have a tendency to overmoderate and go off their feelings, that being said, it would likely be worse if thet undermoderated. Besties just need to find a middle ground. The fact that Baozi, the head moderator, got a 2-week ban but still kept all their jobs is a disgrace to the league. When the head moderator, (a person whose job is not just to make sure that things stay on topic and not get damaging to people or whatever, but is also supposedly the preeminent figure in the league at moderation) does exactly what they are told to prevent from happening, it's a bad look. Letting it fly and allowing said person to continue to be the face of moderation is exponentially worse. Also, the way tate and baozi have approached this conversation has made them both look like jerks but I won't try even get into details there Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tate 450 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NSG said: Ruutus commentary that got him yeeted was 100% something to punish for, but even when you take into account the things he's said the punishment was really overkill. 100% 7 minutes ago, NSG said: From what I've gathered from my 2 years here, the mod team seems to have a tendency to overmoderate and go off their feelings, that being said, it would likely be worse if thet undermoderated. Besties just need to find a middle ground. Yes and no, definitely overall agree... just not the fact that it would have been worse without them. When the SBA dropped their affiliate with us did Bek go wild and bring the hammer down on Josh? No. He took his time and tried to navigate it as best as he could, and be as fair as he could. I may not agree with Bek all the time, but that is good leadership. I think this version of the mod team has had a negative effect on the league and it stems from the top. 7 minutes ago, NSG said: The fact that Baozi, the head moderator, got a 2-week ban but still kept all their jobs is a disgrace to the league. When the head moderator, (a person whose job is not just to make sure that things stay on topic and not get damaging to people or whatever, but is also supposedly the preeminent figure in the league at moderation) does exactly what they are told to prevent from happening, it's a bad look. Letting it fly and allowing said person to continue to be the face of moderation is exponentially worse. AMEN 7 minutes ago, NSG said: Also, the way tate and baozi have approached this conversation has made them both look like jerks but I won't try even get into details there Fair. Edited October 19, 2022 by Tate Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles 91 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, Berocka said: Are you called Achilles as you like playing the heel? the heel may be a weakness, but the mouth is worth more lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berocka 2,263 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Achilles said: the heel may be a weakness, but the mouth is worth more lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel_(professional_wrestling) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles 91 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Jason | OTT AGM — Today at 11:20 PM i dont even have phtotshop [11:20 PM] photoshop* [11:20 PM] for some reason its not letting me send a picture on here Thomas Matthews — Today at 11:20 PM i can make something for u man' @Thomas Matthews i can make something for u man' Jason | OTT AGM — Today at 11:21 PM I have real proof @Jason | OTT AGM for some reason its not letting me send a picture on here Sam — Today at 11:21 PM dm me it Thomas Matthews — Today at 11:21 PM nice [11:21 PM] what would u like brother [11:21 PM] i am good ad visul shit [11:21 PM] visual* [11:22 PM] sam please go away or i will accuse u of sexual assault she timed me out on hour. Because she can Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garsh 1,195 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tate said: Yes and no, definitely overall agree... just not the fact that it would have been worse without them. When the SBA dropped their affiliate with us did Bek go wild and bring the hammer down on Josh? No. He took his time and tried to navigate it as best as he could, and be as fair as he could. I may not agree with Bek all the time, but that is good leadership. Bek told a user to "fuck off", even if he is friends with dil he shouldn't be bringing down the hammer like that Mr_Hatter, a_Ferk, Gustav and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,530 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Achilles said: she timed me out on hour. Because she can *she timed me out one hour. Because I went into her server and asked her to leave and joked about accusing her of sexual assault. Garsh 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Spartan said: she timed me out one hour. Because I went into her server and asked her to leave and joked about accusing her of sexual assault. on god Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogan 1,425 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I am locking this thread for investigation Alex, Arce, v.2 and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownMinion 728 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, Spartan said: *she timed me out one hour. Because I went into her server and asked her to leave and joked about accusing her of sexual assault. (I timed him out for the hour) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgehog337 3,483 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 let the world burn jRuutu, fromtheinside and Tate 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/128459-repeat-offender-october-edition/page/3/#findComment-955225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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