omgitshim 902 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, Devise said: Eh? I don't know if I fully agree with this. On the game the town did amazing, Eagles had claims going himself maybe not on Day 1 but before too much information was out. He was giving orders, making sure certain roles claimed. Remember though, Eagles did the same last game as Mafia and they ran away with it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgitshim 902 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 To clarify though, you're right that staying silent helps the Mafia. But just because someone is calling the shots doesn't mean they are Town either. Devise 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, omgitshim said: Remember though, Eagles did the same last game as Mafia and they ran away with it. Exactly! Your only playing to my larger point. People who know how to play the game are going to direct this either way. We have enough new faces in this game that I'm going to say there is a good chance there are people with roles who have no disadvantage to revealing (given that Jailor and Mayor are already revealed roles and good targets for mafia). It feels to me that in instances when there is enough new folks and silence seems to be more golden that Mafia will likely take advantage of that by challenging people who don't want silence. We are going to get rung through the ringer either way with a traitor game. Again I state, I'm not claiming everyone has no choice but to role claim day 1 go go go go. I'm just saying, if your town take a look at your wiki take at look at what your role can do and ask yourself "how long should I keep this a secret" in a no whisper game with a traitor. Information in a game with these circumstances is paramount imo. No deductions can be made without it. If you think I'm suspect due to my actions or trying to dictate so early I'd point out that all I'm looking for is to see more information revealed, not pick candidates. My reactionary vote for Ferk had more to do with his challenge and as he was mostly just pointing out that a traitor mayor is OP and to watch my actions, I feel fine with that assessment. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I agree with the logic of information is good but if we are being honest there is no information going on right now other than, mayor actually being the mayor. everything else is hearsay. the jailor claim might not be a jailor. We don't have any CC but that might be because the real jailor might just jail and exe. unlikely but honestly there is nothing to go on. This is where when you look at actual TOS the pre night 1 is only like 15 seconds. There is very little info that is helpful. Giving too much info only hurts town N1. b/c it allows a good mafia time to plan their claims and possibly depending on the role list really mess with peoples minds. e.g. a good disguiser, forger, or framer can really use info night one to be a great alibi and possibly get confirmed. Mayor and Jailor are fine b/c Mayor can be confirmed easily and there can only be one Jailor. Other than that there is no good roles to come out before N1, and the ability to confirm info with things that actually happened. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,130 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, rjfryman said: I agree with the logic of information is good but if we are being honest there is no information going on right now other than, mayor actually being the mayor. everything else is hearsay. the jailor claim might not be a jailor. We don't have any CC but that might be because the real jailor might just jail and exe. unlikely but honestly there is nothing to go on The Jailor can't execute someone on the first night, but it's a common tactic for the serial killer to claim to be the Jailor in order to be jailed, then kill the Jailor since they can't execute people the first night. We've seen no counter claims though, so for now we gotta take Ricer's word. eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,428 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 The Grand Poobah stares at the time in the upper right-hand corner of his computer screen and waits for it to hit 9:00 PM so he can end the day phase. And probably ends up being a couple minutes late anyway by the time this is over as it takes longer than it should for him to write these things. It's the end of the first day! A couple claims, a reveal, and even a @Devise post make this quite eventful as far as first days go. And with that, Night 1 begins now! Send me your night actions, get your last wills in order, load up your grapeshot cannons, run a safety check on those bulletproof vests, do what you have to do. Day 2 will not start at 9:00 AM tomorrow as I'll be sleeping in. List of those alive (20): Spoiler @a_Ferk @Alex Bridges @BarzalGoat @Beaviss @Berocka @bigAL @Devise @Doomsday @eaglesfan036 @Mike @Mr_Hatter @Nykonax @omgitshim @OrbitingDeath @osens @Ricer13 @rjfryman @solas @Spartan @Z16 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,428 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 The Grand Poobah rolls out of bed and realizes that some notifications need to be sent and some people need to be killed. ...did anyone think this wasn't going to happen? @Beaviss, in his first game, was attacked and killed by a member of the MAFIA on Night 1. His role and will have been lost. @bigAL has also fallen victim to a N1 death, this time at the hands of a CRUSADER. He was an ESCORT. Last will: Spoiler n1 - Devise (mayor) List of those alive (18): Spoiler @a_Ferk @Alex Bridges @BarzalGoat@Berocka @Devise @Doomsday @eaglesfan036 @Mike @Mr_Hatter @Nykonax @omgitshim @OrbitingDeath @osens @Ricer13 @rjfryman @solas @Spartan @Z16 Spartan and eaglesfan036 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Ferk 766 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Either AL's will is wrong, he was transported or it was forged. Doesn't make sense Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Ferk 766 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Oh fuck nvm. Carry on. I was thinking he got killed by a veteran so was confused as to why he died visiting Devise. Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,130 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Either the Crusader was on Devise, or he was transported to the Crusader. Definitely some digging to do today. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Ferk 766 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Anyways. I was witched last night. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ricer13 2,796 Posted July 10, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 10, 2020 I jailed @osens last night. He claimed to be Town. I won’t reveal his role as of right now. For the mean time I trust him. eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, a_Ferk said: Oh fuck nvm. Carry on. I was thinking he got killed by a veteran so was confused as to why he died visiting Devise. how do you know he visited devise? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,405 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, eaglesfan036 said: how do you know he visited devise? his last will Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Ferk 766 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, eaglesfan036 said: how do you know he visited devise? From his will Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solas 1,951 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I’m a bit confused as to why an escort would be on the mayor. Crusader being on Devise makes sense though as he’s an important role. TPs probably had a tough choice to make last night with both a jailor claim that wasn’t CCed and a confirmed mayor. The possibility of a witch is certainly interesting as well. Something to keep an eye on. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, solas said: I’m a bit confused as to why an escort would be on the mayor. Crusader being on Devise makes sense though as he’s an important role. TPs probably had a tough choice to make last night with both a jailor claim that wasn’t CCed and a confirmed mayor. The possibility of a witch is certainly interesting as well. Something to keep an eye on. Yea crusader going on mayor makes sense to me. With jailor calling for tp lo on him it is likely that the crusader would have just killed one of them if he went on jailor. Nor would the crusader want to reveal themself. Also lol at me for forgetting to read the will. Why in the world would an escort go on the confirmed mayor? What purpose does that serve. We know they weren't witched cause someone else also claimed witched. a_Ferk and solas 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Ferk 766 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, solas said: I’m a bit confused as to why an escort would be on the mayor. This also confused me. The mayor has no night action eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
osens 297 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I can confirm I was jailed last night by @Ricer13 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I forgot to mention I was roleblocked last night That means one of the following: Big Al's will was forged There is an additional escort There is a consort solas and a_Ferk 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Why tf would escort go in mayor gr00vy d00d no a_Ferk 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarzalGoat 728 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Is there a mafia role that could change bigAl’s role from something else to escort ? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 *on Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, BarzalGoat said: Is there a mafia role that could change bigAl’s role from something else to escort ? does forger do this? I dont think so, I think it just last will Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, BarzalGoat said: Is there a mafia role that could change bigAl’s role from something else to escort ? I don't believe so Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/86704-town-of-salem-7/page/3/#findComment-761363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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