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You'd have to cap them at the usual 175 or whatever and then only allow say 100 banked.. even then it's iffy.

So, would this possibly caused inflated players throughout a players 8 season career? Most players start out of the gate around 200-250ish at best entering the VHL. Now they're going to be entering at 325-400 or whatever. Wouldnt this have a negative affect on the new salary brackets (or put us in the same position as before), as well as have inflated players - higher TPE totals throughout the league. We brought in a harsher update scale to prevent players from maxing out or becoming inflated, but not with this, you're essentially enabling it again.

How would drafting work? Would a S58 player be take in the S60 draft because he spent a long time in the VHLM? Or would he be drafted in 59 but his career not start (8 seasons) until he plays in the VHL? For financing purposes, is @Victor gonna have to go into every seasonal thread until he finds when they played their first game in the VHL? Typically, it's their draft year which starts the bracket for financing. I guess fortunately in this case there's only two brackets - but if a 8 year career doesn't begin until they play in the VHL.. what if they create and are drafted in S62 but don't play until S65 in the VHLM? Is victor going off that S65? He'd have to as that's when their rookie phase would begin. That's quite a bit of extra work for each and every player. That's a pain in the ass having to search for that stuff. Unless, of course.. the VHLM Stars or whatever they are, don't have a numerical value beside them until they play their first game? Could be that.

#ForTheSakeOfParity

Fair enough, man. I see the point of it for sure and I mean, while my vote would be no - If it were to be brought in, you can count me in on making a mediocre at best VHLM star hahah

Yeah the first person on everyone was. Like I said, in bed and copied Bushitos on the phone so it bolder only the 1st one lol

Hahah so funny. Go take a look. IN FACT, not only is he the first listed.. he was also bolded... lol

Lol no he's not. Take another look. I did it while in bed - he's on there - 1st player named. Pretty sure Fook Yu signed with QUE,

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#BringBackPlayerTwo

Am I missing something? If they break 200, VHL draft. Capped at 300 TPE, max stats 85-90. So a second player in the VHL for depth. No salary just counts on cap. Thanks for being so helpful @hedgehog337 Strongly against this idea. HOWEVER, If the blue team does decide to try it out and then take it away, you know I'll be making a player. People dont care about the VHLM.. when they're in it or not.. don't see how this will make them start either.

So if the VHLM star hits 200.. were allowed to have 2 players again in the VHL? Didn't they get rid of player two? Now they're bringing it back? Where have we once brought something or someone back and it never worked out? This was proposed strictly for VHLM. So it should be capped at 125 TPA and nothing more. And 300 TPE.. that's barely a player in the new league with the update scale. The first bit of regression and they're fucked unless they bank. Again, my vote is a heavy no and I see it being something they once again get rid of. If you want two players, maybe in which case, I'm all for that (bringing back player two).

As I've been saying lol

Maybe. That’s sorta BS then. I’d say one can only be welfare. Half the work for 2 players really is a no, no in my eyes. Most of us can claim welfare for 5 TPE though.. like @Laflamme said to me last night .. something along the lines of why would you write 500 words for 6 when you can just claim 5.. lol and he has a decent point. What’s that? A whopping 6 TPE difference a season?

So what happens when players are in their 3rd years sitting at 150 TPE and new members are sitting at 30 TPE going against a league full of elite minor leaguers? I see the benefits to activity - but player 2 for the VHL should never have been abolished if this goes through. The option should be there for the VHL too. Same shit, different pile.

Yes.... but if we cap the VHLM stars at say 125 TPE.. atleast the new members and ACTUAL VHL creates/recreates will be in the ballpark. What happens when all these VHLM stars hit the 125 cap - even after starting at 0? Then we have, 10-20 members at 125 TOE (not including other players who plan to go into the VHL), playing against 30 TPE players. The cap from 125 and 75 is a lot less than 30 and 125. Also, the new members will be getting 3rd line minutes potentially too and goalie positions may be gobbled up. I don't see the idea working.

I think most people will - just like they did Player Two. That was, after all, a big reason for abolishing it. People felt forced or obligated into making a player. Those are 500-900 TPE players and most made one. These are 100-200 TPE players. I expect quite a few to make them. I think its an idea but not necassarily a needed one nor one which the league will heavily benefit from. Again, let's say for the sake of it, 15-20 people create.. that's a huge amount of TPE inflation that's gonna be stuck in that league. 15-20, 100-200 TPE players that don't leave the league will really have an affect on lower people. If it's a single season thing, that's a lot of work for the simmers/updates and commissioners but I guess the turnover rate is already fairly high lol

@diamond_ace maybe raise the starting TPE. = 75 while the others start at 30? This off-sets it and boosts everyone's starts?

As in they start with 0? That's a better idea. but my point still is.. 30 people will be creating these players.. so the leagues gonna be cluttered with 100-200 TPE players. Am I the only one thinking this? A new member will join and we'll have 30 of these "VHLM" stars that joined a season prior. Theyre not coming and going. They're staying in the VHLM. That's what's proposed. Even if we start at zero.. by mid season and on, they'll be entering a tough spot as they'll be lower than most heavily. Whatever though. Offers realism.

I stated my opinion. Quit whining, lol I see no positivity from it. I'm sure most will agree

Yeah - you took the comment wrong. It wasn't directed at you or the recruitment team. More so anyone saying "Hey, we need everyone to have 2 players so drafts are better". It would help, but it's a bandaid that's lost its stickiness. Thus, "try recruiting" meant having members and new members is way better than clogging up the VHLM with a bunch of veteran, second player VHLM stars. And never did I say you're not trying - but I think we should stay away from temporary fixes like this. If, to the eyes of the higher powers, Player Two failed - I don't see how this would help. I'm an advocate for player two and am happy GM's get to continue it. I have double the chance of one of my guys not sucking ass haha

Welcome to the league, JCF.

I'm someone who agrees with you on the player two thing, however, I don't think this idea would. It was a rushed decision - not fully thought out and yeah. Maybe make a rule one player welfare, the other point tasks. The fact the reasoning it was blown out of the water by the blue team was because "it burnt people out"... The only way someone will make me do something is if I love them, they pay me or are my boss or there's a benefit for me. I don't see how the option being there forced them into anything or had them feeling obligated.. if so, that's really, really silly.. lol