bigAL 2,176 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 $15 donation 8NA55905U7884991P Free Doubles weeks for my Marauder 1st round draft picks:@Andre LeBastard@Mongoose87@ahockeyguy Andre LeBastard and ahockeyguy 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigAL 2,176 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 $15 donation 80172616G5918593R The bribe to get @PatrikLaine to stay in Miami S73 5 uncapped TPE $1M player store Doubles Week Laine 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laine 1,361 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, bigAL said: $15 donation 80172616G5918593R The bribe to get @PatrikLaine to stay in Miami S73 5 uncapped TPE $1M player store Doubles Week As a high school student who can't really earn money (focus on studies) you didn't need to do this, but I really appreciate it! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigAL 2,176 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, PatrikLaine said: As a high school student who can't really earn money (focus on studies) you didn't need to do this, but I really appreciate it! You owe me straight-As now Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laine 1,361 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, bigAL said: You owe me straight-As now Well I mean, I had all A+s last year so next year shouldn't be any different Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonziGG 1,071 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Transaction ID: 29M008125P538280D $1M Player Store Cash 5 TPE Uncapped Doubles Week Edited July 16, 2020 by fonziGG Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOKIE745 607 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 4DG488968T1158321 15$ donation, Peace already bought me doubles so I'd like to spend the 5$ extra on 5 uncapped TPE for @Steve as for me, 5 Uncapped TPE and 1 million player store edit: having been informed of the vetoing going on I will spend that extra 5$ on a doubles week for myself now instead of the 5 uncapped TPE for Steve. Edited July 17, 2020 by ROOKIE745 Steve 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted July 17, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted July 17, 2020 16 hours ago, Peace said: $30 CAD DonationTransaction ID: 74639372W54833340 For Killinger: ($10) - 5 Uncapped - Doubles Week For @ROOKIE745 ($5) - Doubles Week For @Steve ($5) - Doubles Week For @Corco ($5) - Doubles Week For @joeg ($5) - Doubles Week WE - ARE - LEGION Gonna have to veto this. @sterling can either send the extra money back or you can bank it for a future one. Donation drives are one thing but we aren’t going to accept regular donations being bought for other people. I’m sorry guys but we can’t allow that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted July 17, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted July 17, 2020 16 hours ago, bigAL said: $15 donation 80172616G5918593R The bribe to get @PatrikLaine to stay in Miami S73 5 uncapped TPE $1M player store Doubles Week Same with this. No buying donations for other people. I appreciate what you are going for but ultimately it sets a very bad precedent that we can’t allow. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,562 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Beketov said: Gonna have to veto this. @sterling can either send the extra money back or you can bank it for a future one. Donation drives are one thing but we aren’t going to accept regular donations being bought for other people. I’m sorry guys but we can’t allow that. So... you’re telling everyone that you can’t pay for $5 of another players $15 donation cap? What’s the difference between me giving them five dollars towards their donation, so does it really matter where the money comes from? I think I understand — I’m boosting the Legion, that must be what your thinking, and I’d understand if that is the concern. However I’d argue — if that is the concern — there is still a donation cap, right? The max one person can have in donations is still $15... which is why Rookie never picked a second doubles week, or am I honestly missing something here. Edit: to clarify, this isn’t me “buying the loyalty” of those I gave $5 too, and it was a one time celebration for Toronto’s first playoff appearance under my reign as GM. I do believe I understand the issue a little, but I would like some more clarification. Edited July 17, 2020 by Peace Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted July 17, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted July 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Peace said: So... you’re telling everyone that you can’t pay for $5 of another players $15 donation cap? What’s the difference between me giving them five dollars towards their donation, so does it really matter where the money comes from? I think I understand — I’m boosting the Legion, that must be what your thinking, and I’d understand if that is the concern. However I’d argue — if that is the concern — there is still a donation cap, right? The max one person can have in donations is still $15... which is why Rookie never picked a second doubles week, or am I honestly missing something here. Edit: to clarify, this isn’t me “buying the loyalty” of those I gave $5 too, and it was a one time celebration for Toronto’s first playoff appearance under my reign as GM. I do believe I understand the issue a little, but I would like some more clarification. A Full donation is worth 11 uncapped if I’m not mistaken. Let’s say you buy 10 guys in your team that, pricey for you but only you. Maybe you can easily afford it. You just literally bought your team an extra 110 TPE without your members having to do anything for it. It basically makes it so that a single member with a decent amount of disposable income can greatly improve their team singlehandedly. That sets an incredibly bad precedent because the limits are put in place so that donations can not become pay to win. You pay for yourself, you get a minor bump. It’s true that those same 10 players could all pay the same amount and get the same bonus for the team but the key is that they would all need to do it themselves. 1 member with the income isn’t dictating who gets an increase. McWolf 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted July 17, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted July 17, 2020 19 hours ago, bigAL said: $15 donation 8NA55905U7884991P Free Doubles weeks for my Marauder 1st round draft picks:@Andre LeBastard@Mongoose87@ahockeyguy And this one as well that I didn't notice. I'm not sure where this mindset is coming from that you can suddenly donate for other people but this has never been the case. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,562 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beketov said: A Full donation is worth 11 uncapped if I’m not mistaken. Let’s say you buy 10 guys in your team that, pricey for you but only you. Maybe you can easily afford it. You just literally bought your team an extra 110 TPE without your members having to do anything for it. It basically makes it so that a single member with a decent amount of disposable income can greatly improve their team singlehandedly. That sets an incredibly bad precedent because the limits are put in place so that donations can not become pay to win. You pay for yourself, you get a minor bump. It’s true that those same 10 players could all pay the same amount and get the same bonus for the team but the key is that they would all need to do it themselves. 1 member with the income isn’t dictating who gets an increase. I see. I’m disappointed but that’s reasonable. Refund the extra $20 to me so I can spent it on what paid for it all: my alcoholism. McWolf 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted July 17, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Peace said: I see. I’m disappointed but that’s reasonable. Refund the extra $20 to me so I can spent it on what paid for it all: my alcoholism. I get the disappointment and I get what you were trying to do it just sets an unfortunately very bad precedent. It isn't about the amount of money (which again, would even out) it's about the rewards. Buying rewards for other people, while kind, just sets up abilities we would rather not see. We will continue to allow it for donation drives because those are smaller rewards and for a good cause but regular donations are to be for personal use only. McWolf 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plate 386 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Transaction ID: 0CL997062S3392326 ($15) Player store Doubles Week 5 Uncapped Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigAL 2,176 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Beketov said: And this one as well that I didn't notice. I'm not sure where this mindset is coming from that you can suddenly donate for other people but this has never been the case. Fair enough. I saw VHLM commish offering to spot people donation money for the BLM drive, and thought that was a thing we can do? I gave a sponsorship to my inaugural Marauders who got drafted in the first round of the VHL Draft, but I get the reasoning behind it. I’ll take the cash back and buy them some timbits or something. Ricer13 and McWolf 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted July 17, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted July 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, bigAL said: Fair enough. I saw VHLM commish offering to spot people donation money for the BLM drive, and thought that was a thing we can do? I gave a sponsorship to my inaugural Marauders who got drafted in the first round of the VHL Draft, but I get the reasoning behind it. I’ll take the cash back and buy them some timbits or something. Yeah, I get the confusion. The donation drive is a bit of a different thing than normal donations. @sterling can you hit Al and Peace up with refunds? Also @Updaters pleas keep an eye on this. Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinCal 112 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 $15 donation made for S73 by Player-Vin Calia Transaction ID-3KY431376J803010C 5 uncapped TPE$1M player storeDoubles Week Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,389 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Transaction ID: 8EE83160FL416910N Doubles 5 TPE $1M Player Store Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-763936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,116 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Transaction ID: 80032986CE2948517 10$ Double Week 5 uncapped Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-764352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg 69 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) Transaction ID: 34T28328613410249 $10.00 CAD -5 Uncapped TPE -Free Week Edited July 21, 2020 by joeg Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-764382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesytamm 21 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Transaction ID: 2V240640097999343 $10 CAD -5 TPE Uncapped -Doubles Week (6 TPE uncapped from a PT being done) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-764398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflo 1 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Transaction ID: 3M237250R1903074D $15 CAD - 5 TPE Uncapped - Free Week - $1M Player Store Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-764532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renomitsu 934 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 S73 Donation Transaction ID 5YU22140TB452673M Claiming with this post: 5 TPE Uncapped Doubles Week $1M Player Store Cash Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-765126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle 667 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) S73 Donation Transaction ID: 7DF63521TV182331H Free Week (used for week of 7/26/20) 5 Free TPE (used for week of 7/20/20) Doubles Week Edited July 27, 2020 by Kyle Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2451-vhl-donation-index/page/47/#findComment-765176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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