Peace 1,530 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Hello, everyone! With permission from @diamond_ace I have written this hiring article up for anyone who is interested. I am hiring an assistant general manager for the Saskatoon Wild... but there is a catch. The person who is hired will be my replacement when I take over the VHL's Toronto Legion starting in S71 - pending VHL Commish approval, of course. That being said - because this is a replacement position (on the grounds I do become the Legion's GM) - your hiring needs to be approved by the VHLM Commissioner team as my replacement. In a way this is an open 'Who's the next SSK GM if Peace is promoted' thread, but it's unique because I get to choose who I want to hire well. Officially I think you'll be named interim GM when (or even if) I become the Legion's GM, and as an interim GM the VHLM Commish team will be monitoring your activity and inclusion as a GM. The VHLM GM and AGM roles are all about member retention. Help when you can, encourage activity and promote a healthy environment. There are some requirements for this position. You'll need a PC capable of running the STHS Client v3, so anything with Windows 7, 8 or 10 is acceptable. I can't speak for Apple products, but I think they need help to run the client, you'd have to test for yourself. Additionally you'll need Discord so you can communicate easier with other VHLM GMs; lastly, and this one is important too, you'll need some 'history' (really just proof) of activity on the forum. It doesn't have to be direct, but keeping a player up to date with updates and occasionally commenting on threads is good enough. Don't worry about any AGM experience or anything like that, this is why you'll be hired on as an AGM seasons in advance. As Saskatoon's AGM and potential replacement you'll be learning about STHS, waivers, our rules (they are separate from the VHL's rulebook), drafting and... well everything related to GM'ing a VHL team. You won't be paid this season, but as your responsibilities increase we'll split the GM pay until you take over the club. Good luck, applicants! - Peace Gustav and Rayzor_7 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik 4,113 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 @Beaviss will apply if there's a certain form of payment... Peace 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Quik said: @Beaviss will apply if there's a certain form of payment... id like to stick my "foot" in the door for this one. Peace and .sniffuM 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,530 Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Quik said: @Beaviss will apply if there's a certain form of payment... I'm sure I can provide my quota of 'No' to his demands of Peace feet. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik 4,113 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I also just realized how that comment could come off to anyone not familiar with that dark corner of the VHL lol Gustav 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Quik said: I also just realized how that comment could come off to anyone not familiar with that dark corner of the VHL lol their are different levels of dark that's just the first tier of dark. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzor_7 741 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 @DMaximus Peace 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,530 Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Beaviss said: their are different levels of dark that's just the first tier of dark. So is the second tier the actual picture of my foot? ... and the majority of my left leg. You have strange fetishes. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Peace said: So is the second tier the actual picture of my foot? ... and the majority of my left leg. You have strange fetishes. As ive said it a million times its not a fetish its a goal. Will 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,530 Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Beaviss said: As ive said it a million times its not a fetish its a goal. Mock it up however you want. lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,407 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Peace said: I can't speak for Apple products, but I think they need help to run the client, you'd have to test for yourself. I use a Mac and would be happy to help anyone who might need it to get started. Peace 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoktorFunk 810 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I'll throw my hat in the ring. I'd love to be of help! Gustav, Peace and Berocka 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,407 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, DoktorFunk said: I'll throw my hat in the ring. I'd love to be of help! I can promise that this guy is exactly what you're looking for. Solid article writer and great in the locker room; one of my favorite unemployed alumni. He'll keep your new guys engaged and developing. DoktorFunk 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motzaburger 1,590 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) I don't want to be AGM of Saskatoon but I do want to be a GM Tbh, is this really fair to all the AGMs that are patiently waiting for GM jobs? The successor model we have been seeing lately for GM positions is not ideal for myself and other members wanting to claw their way to a GM position one day. Logically, every GM/AGM job should be an open application to all. What happens behind closed doors is beyond the members (choosing a successor for the job for all I care). It's not fair to limit a GM position in this way and publicly announce a massive limitation. Edited September 4, 2019 by Motzaburger Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_O 897 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 i'll apply Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,407 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Matt_O said: i'll apply Don't try to sneak in ahead of @Thranduil Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diacope 1,696 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) If you are willing to teach me a few things because I'm newer I can handle the position, I'm a quik learner and very active. Edited September 4, 2019 by diacope NotAVHLM-GM, gorlab and Peace 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,530 Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Motzaburger said: The successor model we have been seeing lately for GM positions is not ideal for myself and other members wanting to claw their way to a GM position one day. Logically, every GM/AGM job should be an open application to all. What happens behind closed doors is beyond the members (choosing a successor for the job for all I care). It's not fair to limit a GM position in this way and publicly announce a massive limitation. The role of an AGM is to groom people into management material, not necessarily turn them into a GM with the next opening. It's similar to how the VHLM GM to VHL GM progress happens... as in it's not so black and white. We saw just recently two non-current GMs get hired for VHL expansion teams with Ace (previous GM'ing experience) and Eno (No VHLM/VHL GM experience) despite neither having a management job for a team. This job won't grant that person immediate GM status, it will be entirely interim based until Bana/Ace either agree to keep that person as a replacement or decide to hire a new one, but in order to make the process as smooth as possible when Devise steps away from Toronto my AGM I hire will simply become Saskatoon's interim GM like these things have happened in the past. An AGM position with a team puts you in line to replace the current GM should they be fired/hired onto a different role. When the GM steps away, the AGM takes over as an interim GM. This is how it works with every GM who's succeeded from within unless they don't meet the Commish's standards. When Dtayl went inactive I was announced as SSK Interim after managing Saskatoon for 90% of the season already. It's not an open GM application, but I understand where you're coming from. If I had been fired it would have been an open GM frenzy because I had no AGM, but if I had been fired with an AGM that AGM would have been announced as Interim until a GM was found. Whether or not that GM was the interim GM was up to them. I hope I've done enough to explain the situation. The difference is whoever becomes Saskatoon's AGM will most likely become Saskatoon's interim GM starting S71 rather than waiting for an unknown date for the GM you're under to be hired/fired. It isn't written in stone, but it is certainly a heavy possibility, which makes it a necessity for a smoother transition. Edited September 4, 2019 by Peace Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanCow123 914 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Hello there, first and foremost I am applying for Saskatoons AGM role. I know, I've had a shady past before but trust me when I say, I can be the first one to admit it and I know it's not great, however, I'd like to move past that and help this franchise lift the cup! But enough talk about my past let's talk a little bit about my experience. Currently, I have one position as San Diego's AGM. Yes, I have not had that many jobs but you have to start somewhere. I have learned a hell of a lot from this position. IR has taught me how to rebuild a team from the ground up. San Diego had no assets going into S67, not a single draft pick had been made, the franchise didn't even show up to draft day, because their plan was simple, build from the ground up, sign some brand new prospects, and make it a journey. Even with prospects joining the Marlins left and right, people where doubting our team. I made it my goal to work our asses off and show this league not only what IR is capable of but what I can do to help San Diego. So why should you choose me? there is 1 simple answer. I care. That's right I care. I care for my team. I care that they are happy and want to play on the team. I care that they enjoy the league and what it has to offer. That is why you should pick me. Way too many people care that they win the cup and while I do. I care a hell of a lot more about my team's morale. Edited September 5, 2019 by MexicanCow123 Peace and Quik 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmebeck 378 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) I predicted (heh, we'll see) the outcome of the S68 draft. I have some rapport going on with some GMs. I check the ratings, the earnings, the new people. But mostly, I really like this site and the people I have met here. I am a programmer by trade, statistician as a hobbyist, Swedish language and philosophy by education (that was a mistake to take at university level luckily, programming). In the short term I can offer you that I am interested in keeping track on member activity, I love the wheelings and dealings here, and talking to new recruits and bring them in to the league. I don't really care about the TPE (I guess it's capped TPE?), but I think I could do great work for Saskatoon to bring new members in and care for them during the season. But yeah, if you would entertain me applying for the role I would be happy to take it at Saskatoon Blind, sorry, Wild. Edited September 5, 2019 by Elmebeck diamond_ace, Peace, Gustav and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 The only sim team I've ever been interested in GM'ing... but to be an AGM to Peace is a black mark on my legacy, so I'll have to pass. Somebody @ me when he needs an outright replacement. NotAVHLM-GM and Nykonax 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Elmebeck said: I predicted (heh, we'll see) the outcome of the S68 draft. I have some rapport going on with some GMs. I check the ratings, the earnings, the new people. But mostly, I really like this site and the people I have met here. I am a programmer by trade, statistician as a hobbyist, Swedish language and philosophy by education (that was a mistake to take at university level luckily, programming). In the short term I can offer you that I am interested in keeping track on member activity, I love the wheelings and dealings here, and talking to new recruits and bring them in to the league. I don't really care about the TPE (I guess it's capped TPE?), but I think I could do great work for Saskatoon to bring new members in and care for them during the season. But yeah, if you would entertain me applying for the role I would be happy to take it at Saskatoon Blind, sorry, Wild. Vouch. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berocka 2,263 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 7 hours ago, DoktorFunk said: I'll throw my hat in the ring. I'd love to be of help! Give this man a job, he is a good locker room presence and has a good knowledge plus is good at helping the new guys. It still surprises me that @GustavMattias didn't pick this man. DoktorFunk 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,407 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, berocka said: It still surprises me that @GustavMattias didn't pick this man. Only reason why I didn't? Berocka lives 14 hours apart from me, time zone-wise. So, availability for recruitment and such was more widespread. Otherwise, I don't know what I would have done; maybe resorted to a literal coin flip... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berocka 2,263 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, GustavMattias said: Only reason why I didn't? Berocka lives 14 hours apart from me, time zone-wise. So, availability for recruitment and such was more widespread. Otherwise, I don't know what I would have done; maybe resorted to a literal coin flip... Woohoo I'm a diversity hire DoktorFunk and Gustav 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/68829-a-unique-ssk-agm-job/#findComment-663419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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