Commissioner Josh 1,671 Posted March 30, 2022 Commissioner Share Posted March 30, 2022 Hello @Members, It's time to let you all know that hybrid attributes are available on the Portal and should be fully functional! What this means for you: All skaters will need to rebuild their player. As seen in the announcement post here, every skater has been refunded all of their TPA. Keep in mind if your TPA =/= TPE it should be because of depreciation but please let us know of any discrepancies. Because the new system can be a bit confusing at first, we've created a tool to help plan your build ahead of time. Please find it under the "Player" menu listed as "TPA Tool". As with most new Portal features please let @Dil or I know of any issues you experience. Excited to start off this new league chapter with you all! - @Commissioner Spoiler RIP PA 40 / SC 99 Meta. Never come back. Devise, rory, McWolf and 7 others 7 1 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade cat 283 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) FINALLY thanks josh and dil because i feel bad for him Edited March 30, 2022 by comrade cat Dil 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,758 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Checks player...all zeros. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobcarson877 2,540 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Thanks for all of the work put into all of this! Hopefully it does all of the things right Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom 1,445 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Josh said: As with most new Portal features please let @Dil or I know of any issues you experience I refuse to let @Dil touch the portal again Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,029 Posted March 30, 2022 Commissioner Share Posted March 30, 2022 Meant to mention this before it went live but that’s okay. You may notice that your build differs slightly from what you tested with originally. Based on feedback we made a couple of changes to the attributes and ratios between the original announcement and now. First, the passing attribute was weighted too high and made it very out of line with the others cost wise so it’s ratio has been reduced slightly. Second, fighting was inadvertently capped very low so anyone looking to make a meme fighting build was stuck. We have rectified this by adding a solo fighting attribute in addition to it being present in grit. Third, speaking of grit, we have kept fighting as part of the attribute because we do feel like anyone looking to get huge amounts of hitting would ultimately drop the gloves now and then but we did hear the complaints about it being weighted too heavily so we have reduced fighting’s effect in grit. Overall the changes end up as: Hybrid Passing: Passing 0.38 -> 0.32 Hybrid Grit: Fighting 0.3 -> 0.24 Hybrid Fighting: Fighting 0.3 Dom, JardyB10 and animal74 2 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Janser 2,179 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I applied all my TPA and it was smooth and I did get what I tested beforehand in terms of 'real' attributes. A little feedback for a potential improvement for future 'mass application' of TPE (which hopefully will not happen that soon again): Is it possible to allow TPE application in batches (like in SBA for example), rather than clicking for each TPE individually? Or manually enter the targeted amount of TPE applied to each attribute? I mean my 584 TPE were negotiable, but imagine Ryan Kastelic re-applying all his TPE... I know this is complaining on a very high level and you did a good job to transition as smooth as it was. It would be a convenience, that, in view of possible rerolls in the next three seasons, might be worthwhile considering (if technically doable of course). Thanks again to anybody involved for your hard work on this. Dom and TacticalHammer 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid1486 577 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 A sincere Thank You to whomever made the decision/did the work to display both the current attributes and the ratios on the update page Tyler and JardyB10 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shindigs 1,771 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Nice to see that Stick Checking got name changed to Poke Checking, because it would have been a blast dealing with two attributes abbreviated SC existing at once. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,029 Posted March 30, 2022 Commissioner Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shindigs said: Nice to see that Stick Checking got name changed to Poke Checking, because it would have been a blast dealing with two attributes abbreviated SC existing at once. Forgot we made that change haha. Yeah we thought it might be a tad confusing to have them be the same abbreviation. Shindigs 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,029 Posted March 30, 2022 Commissioner Share Posted March 30, 2022 @Dil / @Josh PO and PC are appearing in goalie updating which should be hidden as it was before. Although we have to test how much PC can do that can come later. For now anyone with a goalie please do not touch these categories. Dil 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) The implementation of this was faster and smoother than I could have imagined! Big thanks to Joshua and whomever else (DIL I GUESS) for their good wizardry work with this. Edited March 30, 2022 by JardyB10 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarzalGoat 728 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Hybrid1486 said: A sincere Thank You to whomever made the decision/did the work to display both the current attributes and the ratios on the update page Aren't you just congratulating yourself here???? I assumed they were called Hybrid attributes bc they were your idea?? Spoiler Spoiler Devise and Hybrid1486 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Janser 2,179 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Shindigs said: Nice to see that Stick Checking got name changed to Poke Checking, because it would have been a blast dealing with two attributes abbreviated SC existing at once. Another boon is that I can claim now to be investing in PC (as in 'political correctness' even though I totally am not... Edited March 30, 2022 by Daniel Janser Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I was expecting the portal to be down for a while. Thanks for making this happen so fast and without any issue so far. @Josh @Dil v.2 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 5,119 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,946 Posted March 30, 2022 Admin Share Posted March 30, 2022 Vancouver in the mud v.2, Jubis, Frank and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal74 1,819 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Here the test spreadsheet link again: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oyj6T5O-bTH-CumYQR-Fe4oFz6cALWjWaRrGNBxNnrQ/edit?usp=sharing Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,029 Posted March 31, 2022 Commissioner Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, animal74 said: Here the test spreadsheet link again: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oyj6T5O-bTH-CumYQR-Fe4oFz6cALWjWaRrGNBxNnrQ/edit?usp=sharing The TPA Tool will also do the same thing but be a little more user friendly. I’m also not sure if the spreadsheet contains the above mentioned tweaks. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,408 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Beketov said: The TPA Tool will also do the same thing but be a little more user friendly. I’m also not sure if the spreadsheet contains the above mentioned tweaks. I updated it since a few folks requested it, it's up to date Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 To the glorious minds of @Dil and @Josh, May I humbly request a "Toggle STHS Ratings" button on the team pages? Brandon and Dil 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v.2 1,406 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) Would love a "Toggle STHS Ratings" button when viewing team rosters, idk how hard this would be to implement. Edited March 31, 2022 by v.2 Brandon 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalHammer 95 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) Echoing the feedback that it would great to have a +5 or +10 button like the EFL and SBA dashboards do. Clicking the little "+" button over 700 times is a bit tedious. Very cool system overall though. Edited March 31, 2022 by TacticalHammer Jubis 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cobberson 13 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) So if our atributes are very low…will we play…good. For example I have three 30- 40 overall attributes.. how will I play. Edited March 31, 2022 by David Cobberson Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, David Cobberson said: So if our atributes are very low…will we play…good. For example I have three 30- 40 overall attributes.. how will I play. We're not really sure yet! Ideally, comparatively better than folks who don't have as many points invested in their attributes. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/118304-hybrid-attributes-are-live/#findComment-917879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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