ShawnGlade 1,010 Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 Just now, Enorama said: If it was two drafts in a row and he didn't send Jagger or a list in his place, then yes, I would. If he did it once, I would say it as a joke, like I did with you, but two is too many when you're in the middle of a rebuild. This is the last time I’ll quote you in here, because I have a whole nother thread to go. only one occurred when I was in the middle of a rebuild, the other was when I was competing. I’ve explained to you time and time again that I was busy during both drafts but I was outnumbered when it came to availability. And I’m saying this for the 10th time to you, I don’t like lists Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 1,927 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Thanks for drafting me Shawn. Best of luck in the future. ShawnGlade 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, Enorama said: tbh the toxicity is just Bana and Bush going off on each other. Shawn wasn't even really getting chirped until he BPAed this draft. And yeah I'm obviously in no place to tell him what to do, nor am I judging him for doing it. But I'm comfortable saying that it is objectively better for all of Shawn, the league, and especially Davos the franchise itself if Shawn either drafts himself, with a list, appoints someone to draft for him, or steps down due to lack of time. 25 minutes ago, Sonnet said: Yeah, this is it right here. As two members who have really never been on the wrong side of the VHL BOD, I'm going to remind you both that your experiences are not the only ones that happen on this site. In the end some of us will never subscribe to your way of thinking, and your opinions even if they are the popular ones are not law. so please don't try to tell Shawn what is best for him, or pretend that you all knowingly know that all this is for the best because you have absolutely no right to do so. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 This is what happens when you trade Codrick Past away. @Beaviss Nykonax 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,955 Posted January 18, 2020 Admin Share Posted January 18, 2020 As Devise alluded to, think you've been unlucky to be busy in an era with a lot of really good GMs. 10 seasons ago we'd have just been happy to have a willing GM but these days any missteps stick out like a sore thumb. You were also unlucky with the drafts you built around and the constant expansions, but still think when you tried to compete you could realistically have expected to win the cup. That said, this rebuild I fully believe Davos needs a fresh face, not even necessarily because you are the old face, just in general. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,538 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Things were never as bad as people meme'd they were during my time on Davos. Winning a cup probably would have been more lucky than unlucky, but overall, I thought we had some unlucky results, and us (as well as NY) were the two teams hit hardest by expansion. ShawnGlade, Advantage and .sniffuM 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgehog337 3,483 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Davos was obv way more fucked by an expansion than NY. They lost two good players and NY just one (and that could've been easily avoided) ShawnGlade 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enorama 2,038 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, BladeMaiden said: As two members who have really never been on the wrong side of the VHL BOD I squawk at em all the time, and lately I've been riding their asses harder for dragging their feet on certain things, so I doubt I'm an angel in their eyes. 31 minutes ago, BladeMaiden said: so please don't try to tell Shawn what is best for him, or pretend that you all knowingly know that all this is for the best because you have absolutely no right to do so. Nothing all-knowing about it, just airing my opinion. I think he'd have been better off stepping down on his own terms about a season ago because he's been dragged through the dirt since then for being "inactive". Again, not preaching this as gospel. I obviously don't know everything, but I think I know enough to have a valid opinion. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sonnet said: Incidentally, that same statement applies to you as well. I'm not the one going around telling an upset member how to feel when they were forced out a position that they still wanted to be in. I don't think my opinion is law but when I see someone who I know is going to be going up against popular opinion I am not going to let they just stand there alone and go against the crowd. I respect the amount of courage it takes to speak out against those who are in positions of power and will always be there to support the people who have done the same for me. We are always on different sides Sonnet and that is not a bad thing, but do try to refrain from flipping my own phrases back at me as if you think that i believe I am an exception to my own logic. ShawnGlade 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil 1,760 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 @Esso2264 I could really use some meatloaf right about now. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sonnet said: I'm not telling anyone how to feel- I haven't really said anything in this thread other than that I agreed with what Eno said. I'm not really sure what you're talking about, here. You're just sorta attacking me head-on when I haven't really said or done much of anything. I'm only saying that phrase applies to you in the sense that, like myself, your opinions are also not the only ones on this site. We don't have to agree, but you also don't have to come onto me like this with grandstanding claims of "standing up to people in power" and "challenging those who think their opinion is law." All I did was say I agree with Eno, please scale things back a bit. It's fine that you don't agree, we can just leave it there and let things carry on. I think you read my every message as an attack at whoever I am writing It to. You talk to me like you are a hostage negotiator, tiptoeing around and preaching deescalation when I like yourself have just been stating my opinions. You have always had a gift at rephrasing what people have said and bending it to support your arguments. So don't try to twist my words, It is true that I respect Shawn for speaking out when i know it will be against what the admins and BOG would probably like. On this matter there are only probably 2 opinions that actually matter and they are Shawn's and Whoever forced him out. The rest of us are just noise or here for support one way or the other. ShawnGlade and eaglesfan036 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Just now, Sonnet said: holy shit lmao You do!! lmao Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, BladeMaiden said: I think you read my every message as an attack at whoever I am writing It to. You talk to me like you are a hostage negotiator, tiptoeing around and preaching deescalation when I like yourself have just been stating my opinions. You have always had a gift at rephrasing what people have said and bending it to support your arguments. So don't try to twist my words, It is true that I respect Shawn for speaking out when i know it will be against what the admins and BOG would probably like. On this matter there are only probably 2 opinions that actually matter and they are Shawn's and Whoever forced him out. The rest of us are just noise or here for support one way or the other. You do realize that "the BOG" and "the admins" are individual people who often don't agree on everything, right? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeMrtz 574 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 It really do be like that sometimes Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, flyersfan1453 said: You do realize that "the BOG" and "the admins" are individual people who often don't agree on everything, right? I actually did know that, but thanks for the reminder .. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Just now, Sonnet said: Should've done this sooner but I get that we're beyond reasonable discussion here. Happy Saturday! I disagree of course, and see nothing wrong with a good debate but we were never going to have the same opinion on what a "reasonable discussion" entails. So I guess Happy Saturday to you as well. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso2264 774 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Dil said: @Esso2264 I could really use some meatloaf right about now. im more feeling like a roasted chicken tonight Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Acydburn 1,607 Posted January 18, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Esso2264 said: im more feeling like a roasted chicken tonight Tacos? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,538 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sonnet said: Happy Saturday! It’s 4:00, just getting inside from the cold and wanting a shower, and my hot water tank isn’t working. HappySaturday.exe has stopped working, loading AngrySaturday.exe instead. Haha diamond_ace 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil 1,760 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Esso2264 said: im more feeling like a roasted chicken tonight 8 minutes ago, Acydburn said: Tacos? Why not all 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Acydburn 1,607 Posted January 18, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted January 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dil said: Why not all 3 Party!!! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Calzone night with a few beers Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,538 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bushito said: Calzone night with a few beers I’d much rather just eat Pizza. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Peace said: I’d much rather just eat Pizza. Yeah I was always the same and still am but there is this one place with a wood fired oven that makes the most killer calzones and I’m currently sitting at the bar Edited January 18, 2020 by Bushito Devise, BladeMaiden and ColeMrtz 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/76009-stepping-down-from-davos-gm/page/2/#findComment-706280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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