Commissioner Beketov 9,095 Posted September 14 Commissioner Share Posted September 14 Hello @Members I won't lie, some of you are probably thrilled to be reading this, but for me it's bitter sweet. 15 seasons and over 3 real life years ago we officially announced the VHLE, the league's third official league. It was a culmination of a lot of behind the scenes work to make what ultimately was necessary at that time and I was proud to get such a large project off the ground. For many reasons it’s great that it’s no longer 2021, the world isn’t locked down anymore for instance; but one cannot deny those lockdowns brought us a lot of members and now league recruitment has returned to what we would call normal levels vs. the insanity that I think most members became accustomed to. Realistically with that comes the fact that the league is simply not overfilled to the point where a third league is necessary any longer. For that reason, as of S96, we will be removing the VHLE. I can't find any quotes from me on the matter like I would have wanted but I have been saying for years that the VHLE is actually easier to remove than simply expanding the VHLM and then contracting teams later, I stand by that and it is more or less how we are going to handle this. The VHLM for the time being will remain at 10 teams, though we are open to future expansion if needed, and the players from the VHLE will be moved up or down accordingly based on their TPE levels. The VHLM's hard cap will increase to 400 TPE, the VHL's soft cap will remain at 300 TPE. So essentially the same as the VHLE for call ups, if you are over 300 TPE at the cutoff you can play up or down, if you are over 400 TPE you're in the VHL. Exactly how players will be moved down is still up for debate a bit amongst the @VHLM Commissioner team but in all likelihood players will simply revert back to the team that previously owned their rights in most cases and go to a waiver system in a few select ones. If that doesn't prove remotely balanced there could be a draft, again we'll know more details soon. The VHL isn't particularly affected since players who would have been going up still are so no major change on that front. The @VHLM GM and @VHLE GM groups have been notified about this in advance so they already knew as of a few days ago. For the VHLM side nothing much is changing but unfortunately the VHLE crew are all more or less out of a job, luckily we expect a lot of openings this off season so hopefully they can all find new homes. Either way we appreciate all that they did for the VHLE, even if its time was relatively short in the grand scheme of things. Additionally we appreciate @Enorama for his work as VHLE commish, the RGB teams (RIP that acronym) can be thankless jobs and he did it well to the very end. Other minor things of note that this does affect: the "Hello Europe" career task will officially be retired as of now. We may replace it in the future if we feel like another one is needed but thematically nothing really fits and the @BOG feels as if the career tasks don't necessarily need an additional one in that slot. Career length also did go up with the VHLE but we have no plans as of right now to bring it back down. With the expected time to get to the VHL staying the same it seems equally fair that the career length is staying the same; in most cases people will simply spend that extra season in the VHLM instead of jumping around. I do want to make it clear that, at least personally, I do not believe the VHLE was a failure, simply a mark of it's time. Time's change and the league must evolve. if the time comes that it makes more sense Vasteras may yet ride again but as of now the numbers simply aren't supported. I look forward to moving things back to how they traditionally worked and seeing where that takes us as we approach season 100. Of note, and I promise this wall of text is almost done, we don't expect this to cause off-season delays but it's not impossible so please bear with us if things run a little longer than usual. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask, I expect there will be some as this is a lot of information. - @Commissioner Frank, v.2, Ahma and 39 others 20 2 3 1 1 2 3 8 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory 1,943 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 News? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory 1,943 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 5 minutes ago, Beketov said: The @VHLM GM and @VHLE GM groups have been notified about this in advance so they already knew as of a few days ago. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,095 Posted September 14 Author Commissioner Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, rory said: News? Whoever wins the Renaissance cup this season gets to keep it. Just now, rory said: I mean I’ve seen the VHLM post so they’re in the clear; unless Eno lied to us then there’s really no point in trying to pull this. rory 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobcarson877 2,559 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Sorry guys I actually just rage quit deleted the E because Rome was bad my bad y'all Oddpurplefly, ShawnGlade, Thunder and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildfireMicro 424 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 I was on the same team that won the first Renaissance cup and you can't take that away from me CowboyinAmerica and dstevensonjr 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacifistKit17 91 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 7 minutes ago, rory said: I was told, just missed teams that lost to Stockholm I guess rory and Enorama 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory 1,943 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, PacifistKit17 said: I was told, just missed teams that lost to Stockholm I guess u guys actually talk to eno? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacifistKit17 91 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, rory said: u guys actually talk to eno? Eno talks to me, pretty much also a one-way convo tbh Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triller 1,684 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 RIP my recruitment video lol It will be an interesting change but one that seems needed. Was gonna skip the E with my new player anyways. Long live Geneva! rory 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostBeard 2,061 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Beardislava was one of my favourite experiences in the league. VHLE was a success at the core of it and I am really proud I had a chance to be a part of it when it was created. qripll, Spartan and Baby Boomer 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifferfish 593 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, Beketov said: Hello @Members I won't lie, some of you are probably thrilled to be reading this, but for me it's bitter sweet. 15 seasons and over 3 real life years ago we officially announced the VHLE, the league's third official league. It was a culmination of a lot of behind the scenes work to make what ultimately was necessary at that time and I was proud to get such a large project off the ground. For many reasons it’s great that it’s no longer 2021, the world isn’t locked down anymore for instance; but one cannot deny those lockdowns brought us a lot of members and now league recruitment has returned to what we would call normal levels vs. the insanity that I think most members became accustomed to. Realistically with that comes the fact that the league is simply not overfilled to the point where a third league is necessary any longer. For that reason, as of S96, we will be removing the VHLE. I can't find any quotes from me on the matter like I would have wanted but I have been saying for years that the VHLE is actually easier to remove than simply expanding the VHLM and then contracting teams later, I stand by that and it is more or less how we are going to handle this. The VHLM for the time being will remain at 10 teams, though we are open to future expansion if needed, and the players from the VHLE will be moved up or down accordingly based on their TPE levels. The VHLM's hard cap will increase to 400 TPE, the VHL's soft cap will increase to 350 TPE. So essentially the same as when the VHLE started, if you are over 350 TPE at the cutoff you can play up or down, if you are over 400 TPE you're in the VHL. Exactly how players will be moved down is still up for debate a bit amongst the @VHLM Commissioner team but in all likelihood players will simply revert back to the team that previously owned their rights in most cases and go to a waiver system in a few select ones. If that doesn't prove remotely balanced there could be a draft, again we'll know more details soon. The VHL isn't particularly affected since players who would have been going up still are so no major change on that front. The @VHLM GM and @VHLE GM groups have been notified about this in advance so they already knew as of a few days ago. For the VHLM side nothing much is changing but unfortunately the VHLE crew are all more or less out of a job, luckily we expect a lot of openings this off season so hopefully they can all find new homes. Either way we appreciate all that they did for the VHLE, even if its time was relatively short in the grand scheme of things. Additionally we appreciate @Enorama for his work as VHLE commish, the RGB teams (RIP that acronym) can be thankless jobs and he did it well to the very end. Other minor things of note that this does affect: the "Hello Europe" career task will officially be retired as of now. We may replace it in the future if we feel like another one is needed but thematically nothing really fits and the @BOG feels as if the career tasks don't necessarily need an additional one in that slot. Career length also did go up with the VHLE but we have no plans as of right now to bring it back down. With the expected time to get to the VHL staying the same it seems equally fair that the career length is staying the same; in most cases people will simply spend that extra season in the VHLM instead of jumping around. I do want to make it clear that, at least personally, I do not believe the VHLE was a failure, simply a mark of it's time. Time's change and the league must evolve. if the time comes that it makes more sense Vasteras may yet ride again but as of now the numbers simply aren't supported. I look forward to moving things back to how they traditionally worked and seeing where that takes us as we approach season 100. Of note, and I promise this wall of text is almost done, we don't expect this to cause off-season delays but it's not impossible so please bear with us if things run a little longer than usual. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask, I expect there will be some as this is a lot of information. - @Commissioner Yukon! Yukon! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
der meister 3,236 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Even though I literally just skipped the E, I'm actually a little sad about this. My post-Shev plan was to make an E exclusive player. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VattghernCZ 1,049 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 There goes my plan to apply for a VHLE GM spot once I see an opening, now that I'm finally able to use STHS lol Thunder, Subject056 and Frank 2 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,123 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, WildfireMicro said: I was on the same team that won the first Renaissance cup and you can't take that away from me Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,123 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Great for the league. AJW and v.2 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious_Fish 405 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, jacobcarson877 said: Sorry guys I actually just rage quit deleted the E because Rome was bad my bad y'all oh c'mon Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadie 937 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 bye bye e it was fun the one season i played there Subject056 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,009 Posted September 14 Admin Share Posted September 14 eeeeeeeeee Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimee 1,148 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 E abolishers win before gta 6? Damn. dustywilson22, David VanHousen, Ricer13 and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 5,129 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Jeez it was already 3 years old?? I literally just read the first VHL 20:20 (Limbo) and that was written when the VHL was 3 and a half years old and it was a marvel of longevity at that point. I was a great idea to bridge the gap and I am at least grateful I got to experience one season in it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,095 Posted September 14 Author Commissioner Share Posted September 14 17 minutes ago, Phil said: Jeez it was already 3 years old?? Essentially. Was announced May of 2021, its first official season index was October 26 of that year. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snussu 135 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Rip E Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,809 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 So the "E" stands for Eliminated. Ricer13, dustywilson22, Thunder and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder 1,195 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, VattghernCZ said: There goes my plan to apply for a VHLE GM spot once I see an opening, now that I'm finally able to use STHS lol And i wanted to be your AGM VattghernCZ 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/151326-the-end-of-the-vhle/#findComment-1038457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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