Ptyrell 415 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Its a 50/50 shot if you ignore all the evidence in front of you and just pick blindly. He could have shot you last night but didn't. That doesn't prove him innocent that just proves him dumb. He made a mistake, but instead of capitalizing on it, this decision just gifts mafia the win. He is using that single defense to completely convince you when otherwise you were ready to vote him and end the game Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptyrell 415 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So is that it @Caboose30? He convinced you while I was busy with work, and you are unwilling to change your vote now? You initially voted for me because I didn't visit Hatter last night, and have just left it there since. Your initial instincts were that Hatter was TT.We also have the medium's testimony that Hatter is TT. He hasn't done anything to help town, or put himself in harms way the entire game. The only thing he has done is shoot 2 jesters, when he had full knowledge at that point that they were both neutrals. Hatter's only defense is that he didn't shoot you last night. Something that doesn't actually prove him innocent, just shows he made a mistake as TT. I'm going to eat dinner with the family, so Im done after this. I just ask that you objectively look at the evidence in front of you, and trust what your gut is saying. I think if you do that, you will figure it out. GGs to both either way. And let's please never play TT again. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Pty, there is no evidence that I am TT. Literally you don't have a single scrap of evidence, other than claiming to have been targeted by a seance, and even then the "evidence" is assuming ricer, a known evil, was caught making a mistake and not laying a trap." Btw I guess typing out the chat log is ok, but you should only do things that could theoretically be faked, if that makes sense. Like taking a screenshot would be against the rules, but typing out the logs like you did is fine. You keep saying that I only shot two neutrals as if I knew they were guaranteed neutrals anyway, but regardless thats not a knock against me. There weren't any other opportunities to shoot someone. Mafia was killed or lynched, no one was caught in lies in a way that I could have shot them. Not to mention I didn't know they were neutrals even. Even if I was TT, if anything me shooting neutrals would be more dangerous, because I'd know they weren't mafia members, and in the off chance that I was wrong about them being neutral its a higher proportion of town members so the risk is greater I'd expose myself as potentially being TT. Also you say I haven't done anything for town, but I was actively participating as best a vigi can, I was counter claiming jigglys vigi claim as soon as it came out, I was being as helpful as possible. And I'm not dumb. I know how to play Town of Salem, I would have thought of it. I was the first one to comment after gus opened the night, and it was like 20 min after. I had already thought through the situation, not coming up with it then and there. All this being said, I know you are just trying to get out ahead and win the game, I appreciate the effort and think you did a hell of a job; if you asked me this morning what were the chances TT wins I'd say next to none, but you had me worried there in the middle of the day lol. GG anyways, please @GustavMattias yeet us from this game. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I just dont find it believable that Ricer would just let something like that slip. Secondly the chances of you being targeted by a seance are slim to none. If anything it would have been myself or Hatter Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptyrell 415 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Caboose30 said: I just dont find it believable that Ricer would just let something like that slip. Secondly the chances of you being targeted by a seance are slim to none. If anything it would have been myself or Hatter I mean Mike seemed pretty confident, as you can read. Doesn't make sense for them to seance Hatter as the TT, and you were already highly suspicious of Hatter the night before. So makes sense that I would be the one they needed to get on board. I doubt they expected Hatter to convince you otherwise after you were already so suspicious of him up until lunchtime today Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptyrell 415 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 You know actually @Caboose30, you could make this game end in a tie. If we don't vote anyone today and protect me tonight, Hatter can't do anything except shoot you then he is out of bullets and can't kill me the next day. Ending in a tie would be a pretty appropriate ending for this game. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,428 Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 For the final time this game, GUSTAV NOISES @Ptyrell is getting lynched. Spoiler He claims to be a LOOKOUT. Spoiler He is indeed a LOOKOUT. Is he the traitor? Spoiler Spoiler YES! TOWN WINS! The game is over, that's it, thank you all so much for playing (and, for the past few days, tolerating it). Thanks once again to @Blazzer for some phase changes and action recording (I hope you learned a lot!) and thanks especially to those who were alive in the late game and kept up with doing what they could to pull off a win, even when it got boring. Keep an eye out for the next game, sometime in the somewhat near future, as I'd like to get another in before school kicks back off for me. Until next time... Gustav out! @BarzalGoat - JESTER @Berocka - TRANSPORTER @bigAL - ESCORT @Caboose30 - CRUSADER @Devise - JESTER @Doomsday - GODFATHER @JeffD - AMNESIAC @jhatty8 - DISGUISER @JigglyGumballs - MAFIOSO @JorgTheGoat03 - JAILOR @Lefty_S - TRAPPER @Mike - MEDIUM @MMFLEX - SHERIFF @Mr_Hatter - VIGILANTE @omgitshim - BODYGUARD @osens - LOOKOUT @Ptyrell - LOOKOUT @Ricer13 - FRAMER @solas - TRACKER @Spartan - JUGGERNAUT @WentzKneeFan036 - PSYCHIC eaglesfan036, JorgTheGoat03 and solas 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,428 Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 Spreadsheet HERE as usual. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose30 152 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I will find whoever voted for this game mode and kill them in their sleep next game eaglesfan036 and Ptyrell 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgitshim 902 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 gg @Ptyrell that was a hell of an attempt at the end there. Ptyrell, eaglesfan036, solas and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazzer 759 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Thanks Gus for letting me go behind the curtains and see how this beloved game runs. Let me know if u do need help in the future but if u don't, I'll go back to playing eaglesfan036 and Gustav 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty_S 91 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Ngl, I had no idea what the town traitor mode was lmao Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,405 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 fuck everyone and anyone who didn't let me run amok and fuck this game mode lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,428 Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Spartan said: fuck everyone and anyone who didn't let me run amok and fuck this game mode lol Honestly I was sitting there like "why is it not a good idea to let the NK run off and kill people if we know who they and the Mafioso are?" I guess it's not very obvious that it could help, but it's a free shot on someone at random every night that might end up taking out the traitor, and as long as there's enough town to vote people out it can be held in check. Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 thanks for hosting gustav and blazz Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigAL 2,176 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I’ll begrudgingly take the dub Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Gg all. That was certainly a TT game Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/97250-town-of-salem-15/page/21/#findComment-813757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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