Commissioner Beketov 9,033 Posted May 21, 2021 Commissioner Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) VHL's Third League Hello @Members! For awhile now the @BOG have been teasing a more robust option to deal with the roster room issue we have been experiencing lately. Many of you have been assuming this means more expansion, despite us continuing to refute those claims. Well... the expansion claims and us saying they are wrong were both correct in a sense. Today the VHL is announcing that the VHL and VHLM will no longer be the only leagues contained within our Community, we are adding a third, the Victory Hockey League: Europe. Be design the VHLE will fit between the VHLM and VHL so that players are not stuck at the VHLM level passed when they should be there, making the M as a true developmental league, but also not getting pushed to the VHL before they are ready for it. This will open up the rosters of the VHL teams as they will only contain the higher TPE players. Specifically the caps for the individual leagues will be: VHLM: 30-199 TPE* VHLE: 200-399 TPE* VHL: 350+ TPE *Of note these limits operate in the same way as the VHLM does now. So you can claim past the TPE limit but you cannot apply past it. Obviously there's a bit of weirdness at the bottom there as the VHL starts at 350 while the VHLE doesn't end until 399. This is intentional to allow players above 350 TPE to enter the VHL if they so choose but they are not forced to do so until the 400 TPE mark. This does mean that some players can, or will be forced to, skip the VHLE completely; know that this is not necessarily a guaranteed step in your progression. If you are above 350 TPE by your VHL draft and want to skip the VHLE completely you may do so. VHLE Leadership Obviously the @Commissioner and @VHLM Commissioner teams are already quite busy with the VHL and VHLM respectfully so running a whole third league will not fall on them, a new Commissioner team will be added to cover the VHLE. @Acydburn and @Victor have graciously offered to head up this new leadership group. This will of course involve Acyd giving up his current Green team role (which we will be hiring for) to head this new league into the future including hiring the GM's for the new roles, which leads me nicely into the next topic. VHLE Teams and Mentality In effect the VHLE is not a developmental league like the VHLM. Its purpose is not to recruit and retain members and it's GM's will not be bound to that mantra like the @VHLM GM's are. The job of an VHLE GM is to be competitive within their bracket. It will still have the fast turnarounds of the VHLM given it's small TPE window but teams may use their assets as they please to get the most out of their teams and win. Notice I did say VHLE GM's. TheVHLE teams will not be controlled by @VHL GM's or VHLM GM's but rather be new GM opportunities in their own right. But for what teams? Well that's up to you all to decide. Seeing that the league has many amazing old European teams that have been left to the sands of time, we will use those teams to make up the VHLE with the league voting on which 6 they want to see. This means that the Vasteras Iron Eagles, for example, could return; and / or the Cologne Express, Stockholm Vikings, and many others. We have the teams, we have the logos, and we see no reason to not use them so they will make up the pool of teams you all can decide on. The poll for this will be going up soon. Layout wise with the league being only 6 teams at the moment will be simple: 1 conference with the 4 top teams making the playoffs per season. In addition the VHLE will not be affiliated in any way with the VHL or VHLM so it will be simulated as an entirely separate league, the same way the two are now. Think the KHL rather than the AHL. Contract wise the league will be similar to the VHLM with more or less a "free for all" mentality. If a player has been drafted to the VHL they will receive their VHL contract but otherwise all players are signed to $1.5M contracts with no bonuses or salary cap to speak of. This could change in the future if we feel a cap and formal contract structure would improve the VHLE but we want to see if that's necessary first. Draft Structure, Career Length, and Depreciation Adding a third league will obviously affect how drafts and career lengths operate within the VHL. With the VHLE placed where it is in a player's career, and the expectation that they will spend at least one season there, it would obviously create problems for the career clock if we didn't address it. For that reason player careers will be formally extended to 9 seasons, with draft seasons being set the same as they always have. This means you will be eligible for both the VHL and VHLE draft in the same season; potentially all three if you time it right. If, at the draft, you are at or above 350 TPE and would like to go straight to the VHL you still get the 9 season VHL career, adding a year onto the total you can have now. If you spend a season in the E league, as most will, you don't lose out on a VHL season and still retain the 8 that is currently available. So, for example, let's take a player that creates at the S79 deadline. We follow the same rules as now so his VHL draft is S81. In his season and a bit in the VHLM this player earns 200 TPE. This player is drafted to both the VHLE and the VHL. He does not have the minimum TPE to play in the VHL so goes to the VHLE for S81, finishing with 350 TPE or the minimum to play in the VHL. At this point he can choose to either go up to the VHL and play 8 seasons from S82 or he may chose to stay down for a season and would enter the VHL in S83. In either case he retires at the end of S89, having played 7 or 8 seasons. An alternative example is a super heavy earning player. Let's assume he creates at the same time and has the same draft date but has a bunch of carryover and gets a very large amount of TPE in the VHLM. He enters the drafts at 350 TPE, the minimum to play in the VHL. He may choose to skip the VHLE completely and go straight to the VHL in S81. He will then play for 9 seasons and retire at the same time in S89. Nine seasons does add one caveat however; depreciation. As it stands right now depreciation only hits for 3 seasons, season 6-8 of your career. This holds two problems, one exists currently and one is new. The more obvious one is that having 9 seasons means we need to add a depreciation level. For this the same percentage (7%) from year 8 will be used but we will not be adding an additional depreciation fighter to the store that can be used for this season. That means only the Jagr purchase can help you fight 9th season depreciation, you must take the full 7% hit. The second problem, which exists now, is that players can spend extra time in the minor leagues and be hit with depreciation in their "6th" season but that could be, in fact, their 4th VHL season. This does not seem fair to hit lower earners with so quickly, even being percentage based, so we are changing depreciation slightly. Depreciation seasons are now based on VHL seasons played, not seasons since your draft. That means a player who skips the VHLE and plays 9 VHL seasons will be depreciated 4 times. A player that plays 1 VHLE season will be depreciated 3 times, and so on. So if a player takes his time to get to the VHL and only plays 5 VHL seasons he will not face depreciation by the time he is forced into retirement. Call-Ups, Send-Downs, and Graduation Bonus As all VHLE players will be owned by VHL teams as well the issue of call-ups and send downs must be addressed. Like the cap situation this may change later but to start we will only be allowing call-ups and send-downs during the off-season and, obviously, only if the player in question meets the TPE bracket for the league they are being sent to. This means that at no point mid-season can a player be plucked away from their VHLE team to join their VHL team, similarly no player will be pulled from the VHLM to join the VHLE. Whatever league you start the season in is the league you finish the season in. In addition the graduation bonus will remain in place where it is, exiting the VHLM. With the VHLM remaining as a "training ground" of sorts it makes the most sense to reward players for graduating from there. The VHLM to the VHL or VHLE is what we are looking at as the "upwards" movement while the VHLE to VHL is more of a lateral move in your career. Introduction Timeframe Obviously a change this large can't be implemented immediately and start next season. We would not want players who have already created but are undrafted to be left suddenly being told there's an extra league before the VHL that they were unaware of. There's also a matter of dealing with the players who currently sit on VHL rosters that are under 350 TPE and wouldn't be allowed under these rules. Therefore, the VHLE first season will be S80 meaning players that retire at this deadline will be the VHLE's first draft class. Players currently on VHL rosters who are under 350 TPE at the start of S80 may remain on the roster if they so choose or they may be placed into the VHLE draft, remaining as prospects for the VHL teams that drafted them. Likewise any players currently drafted who are still in the VHLM will be given the option of going to the VHL or the VHLE at 200 TPE. Their career clock remains unchanged however; only players starting in the S80 draft will be given the 9 season career and new depreciation rules. Hi, my name is Beketov, and if you have any questions, please try to direct them here: Edited May 22, 2021 by JardyB10 Tyler, Ledge, mediocrepony and 40 others 25 3 1 10 3 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 THE ONE WHERE WE BLOW IT ALL UP Beketov, matt sovick and Devise 1 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diacope 1,696 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,949 Posted May 21, 2021 Admin Share Posted May 21, 2021 Da Trifecta, diacope, der meister and 4 others 1 1 3 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledge 1,131 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 HOLY FUCKIN HELL IT HAPPENED Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank 67 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) This is fucking sick. Edited May 21, 2021 by Hank i fucked up Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigAL 2,176 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Why stop at expansion teams, we get an EXPANSION LEAAAAGUE! xsjack, N0HBDY, diacope and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Beaviss would be so proud. WE EXPANDED BY ONE FULL LEAGUE Prout, mattyIceman, Ledge and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt thunder 444 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I was hoping to be the first but i'm way too late diacope 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanCow123 914 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Ferk 766 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Will VHLE stats count toward career stats or nah Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantRockstar 1,243 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Just now, a_Ferk said: Will VHLE stats count toward career stats or nah different league so no? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigglyGumballs 1,056 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 RETURN OF THE OSLO SCREAMING SEAMEN?? JardyB10, TheCHEESE, Ledge and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,949 Posted May 21, 2021 Admin Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, a_Ferk said: Will VHLE stats count toward career stats or nah The real question is will VHL stats count towards VHLE Da Trifecta and TheCHEESE 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,564 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 expansion? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Dammit, I just asked Tate to solve this problem. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCHEESE 37 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 This is just insane Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterberg 863 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Expansion when? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Ferk 766 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 The one where they brought back Vasteras tcookie, Tyler, Devise and 4 others 3 3 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,408 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,360 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 RIP league records OrbitingDeath and animal74 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.sniffuM 1,741 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 can't believe the European Conference finally got to separate from the VHL at large solas 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Ferk 766 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Just now, STZ said: RIP league records lmao as if anyone passes Campbell Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/103893-the-one-about-the-third-league/#findComment-850540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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