Beaviss 4,958 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Uncapped TPE Changes @Members As lots of you are well aware we have a bit of an inflation issue with the league and its TPE, specifically that there’s far too much uncapped TPE being thrown around.The @Commissioner and the @BOG have gotten together and have discussed how best to address this issue. Our aim was to start to reduce the amount of uncapped available but not take away anything from the league and not to take away any capped potential, simply uncapped. Therefore the following changes will be coming into effect. ------------ Removing All Star Game uncapped Effective Immediately While this is a very minor change it will hopefully stop the "rich getting richer" as over a career it could add up to a total 40 uncapped TPE for something that not everyone can participate in. Lowering Award wins from 2 TPE to 1 Effective starting next season Award wins have always been a “rich getting richer” reward and while we still want to have them present having them be 2 TPE can add up a lot for good players. Therefore personal awards will now be 1 TPE instead of 2. However, shared awards, which have historically only been worth 1 TPE, will remain at 1 TPE. We feel as if players should not be disadvantaged because they tied for an award but rather both should be rewarded as if they hadn’t. Removing Trivia uncapped end of season reward Effective starting next season While the capped reward each week for trivia will remain we will be removing the end of season uncapped bonus. For the most part it was pure inflation for everyone but also further to hurt people if they missed a single week. Removing Weekly/Monthly Lottery Effective Immediately Ever since we changed the lotto it has lost its community engagement and most people don't even know its a thing anymore. Considering it’s pure luck based it has been deemed best to be removed to give everyone the same fair chance with the player. Reducing VHLM Graduation bonus from 20 to 10 Effective starting next season When the graduation bonus was based on performance the max of 20 made sense since not everyone got it. However no it is simply a large pile of free TPE so we are reducing it’s effect from 20 down to 10 uncapped. Reducing Theme Week to Theme Doubles (8 -> 6) Effective Immediately The reward for theme week haven’t been the clearest to earn or to claim. This helps de-clutter it and reduce uncapped inflation at the same time. Theme weeks will not consist only of a doubles week for the PT without the added VHL.com bonus. Removing Extra $20 Donation reward Effective starting next season With the removal of a lot of uncapped opportunities it does not seem fair to keep the paid version as high as it has been, simply because people would be effectively buying what they cannot gain otherwise. Therefore the $20 donation reward is being removed. All the options shall remain but will now cap out at picking 3 rewards of the 4 for $15. Spreading out the Recruit a Friend TPE Rewards Effective Immediately but with old recruits grandfathered in. Because of the recent inflation and the raise of the VHLM TPE limit we are increasing the spread for the Recruit a Friend rewards. While we see the importance of the Recruit a Friend rewards we also don't like how top heavy it is. Therefore no amount of TPE reward has been removed from recruiting but the rewards are staggered out at larger intervals. New Scale: 50 TPE EARNED: 1 TPE for yourself 250 TPE EARNED: 4 TPE for yourself (Up from 100) 500 TPE EARNED: 10 TPE for yourself (Up from 200) Total 15 TPE ------------ Hopefully these changes will begin to reduce the uncapped TPE given out per career and season. These changes will hopefully slow down the inflation issue without making anyone lose anything they love to do for TPE. If you have any questions or concerns about the changes feel free to leave a comment in this thread or send me a private message. Please keep in mind that these changes are for the health of the league and is no way targeting certain members (other than @Enorama) ColeMrtz, NotAVHLM-GM, MexicanCow123 and 14 others 12 2 2 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 FISTED ANALLY BY A CIRCUS MONKEY Now I will never win the lottery real talk good changes, despite making me sad. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonziGG 1,068 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubis 1,349 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Will be competing against members who benefited from this free tpe much longer than I have. Summary: I can live with these changes tho Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,041 Posted March 16, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted March 16, 2020 Sorry about the double notification everyone, we had missed one that I had to add in. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hatter 1,608 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Jubis said: Will be competing against members who benefited from this free tpe much longer than I have. Summary: I can live with these changes tho My only worry... but whatever I guess, it will all even out Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 1,938 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Take more away? Why? You still have to be active to get everything you changed. Inflation that bad of a thing? Why? I see this as a step backwards. Most of the new members seem to go away rather fast, this will not be good for retention in my opinion. I must be missing the "Big" picture. Da Trifecta and enigmatic 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,041 Posted March 16, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Mr_Hatter said: My only worry... but whatever I guess, it will all even out It will yeah. It’s the way of all changes. We can’t go back and retroactively change everything that has been done so players that benefited before still have that benefit but at least as they retire things will even out. With the S63 players out the largest draft class inflation wise (since we were desperate at the time) is done and hopefully things can start to even out quickly. Mr_Hatter 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarzalGoat 728 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Does VHLM graduation bonus impact S71 or S72 players? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 This is change therefore I am outraged Mr_Hatter, Beaviss and ColeMrtz 2 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlash 317 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) A new era is upon us. Edited March 16, 2020 by TheFlash Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enorama 2,038 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I like that a lot of what I've been suggesting is being put in place, even though I know they aren't being put in place because I suggested them and instead because I am the problem Long live Kastelic's TPE reign. May he not only be remembered as the "case study for TPE inflation" but also as "case study for effort". fonziGG, DMaximus, ROOKIE745 and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,041 Posted March 16, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Steve said: Take more away? Why? You still have to be active to get everything you changed. Inflation that bad of a thing? Why? I see this as a step backwards. Most of the new members seem to go away rather fast, this will not be good for retention in my opinion. I must be missing the "Big" picture. New members are the ones who are borderline on the activity front which means they are the ones least likely to benefit from uncapped opportunities. By removing a lot of those the cap becomes more important which is something everyone can hit instead of having to be super active to get all the uncapped chances; some of which do still remain. It also means less TPE on the top end players which means we can more fairly balance an update scale. Currently the scale isn’t enough for the “TPE whores” but is too much for the average member. Lowering TPE numbers means being able to find a balanced scale that can more fairly work for everyone. Removing TPE is not always a bad thing. Just now, BarzalGoat said: Does VHLM graduation bonus impact S71 or S72 players? Just saying “starting next season” wasn’t as clear as I intended I guess. It will just effect S72 players and onward. BarzalGoat 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepheter 586 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Thank the gods we're still getting the end of the season trivia one last time Patrik Tallinder, Jubis and solas 2 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enorama 2,038 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Steve said: Take more away? Why? You still have to be active to get everything you changed. Inflation that bad of a thing? Why? I see this as a step backwards. Most of the new members seem to go away rather fast, this will not be good for retention in my opinion. I must be missing the "Big" picture. I disagree. I think that new players seeing many existing ones at 1500+ TPE saw it as a daunting task to try and reach a level of competitiveness in a league with boys that big. As everyone across the board scales back, competing as a player with a few hundred TPE to their name should seem less daunting. Corco 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,542 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I fail to see why the VHLM graduation bonus needed to be nerfed. Matmenzinger, ColeMrtz, Jayrad28 and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 No VHFL changes, @Beketov? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSpyro 948 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Much needed changes and I think this is gunna impact the VHL in the future Seabass 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 1,938 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 TPE whores? I translate that into players that work hard and earn tpe. Why would you stifle players that actually earn tpe for the sake of those that aren't willing. I don't get it apparently but I couldn't care less about the trivia 5 or 6 end of season tpe. But to get rid of a fucking donation? Really? Does that really hurt the league or you protecting the ones that don't spend the money. I find this a complete joke. Afraid of what, a handful of tpe over a full career? I don't like several things about this league now. You change shit that really isn't an issue but we run on a fucked up sim engine that doesn't know it's ass from a door knob. Good going BoG. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,073 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Peace said: I fail to see why the VHLM graduation bonus needed to be nerfed. Because it’s 20 just because? For nothing except hitting a milestone. Free TPE And a lot of it. 20 was way too overkill. 10 makes much more sense. NotAVHLM-GM 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanCow123 914 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I like this changes. Good work team! You guys put so much work in and you honestly don't get near enough credit. So thank you guys so much for all you've done! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,041 Posted March 16, 2020 Commissioner Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Peace said: I fail to see why the VHLM graduation bonus needed to be nerfed. Everyone gets it which means it’s just completely free TPE that doesn’t need to exist. Everyone getting something is effectively the same as no one getting it. Reducing it means less inflation across the board on something that’s universal. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso2264 774 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 is this the place to be angry for no apparent reason eaglesfan036 and ColeMrtz 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabass 593 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Great changes guys. I feel like it helps bring a little parity around here. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaximus 1,046 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Beketov said: Everyone gets it which means it’s just completely free TPE that doesn’t need to exist. Everyone getting something is effectively the same as no one getting it. Reducing it means less inflation across the board on something that’s universal. I thought the point of the bonus was to make recently promoted players more "VHL ready" by giving them extra TPE to become more relevant in the VHL, where there is a large TPE gap between rookies and veteran players. I think if we want to fight TPE inflation for high earners, we should increase regression, not punish recently promoted players. Edited March 16, 2020 by DMaximus Matmenzinger, ColeMrtz, Steve and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/78957-changes-to-uncapped-tpe-opportunities/#findComment-721780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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