S68 Referendum: Unban boubabi

[Higgins 3,618]

@boubabi was indefinitely banned in April 2018 from the VHL.

 

Should he be unbanned? Yes or no. @Members

 

Votes are public.

[Nykonax 1,566]

[DizzyWithLogic 43]

I was not a part of the league when this happened and therefore don't feel I should vote.

[diacope 1,696]

Give him a second chance, I vote yes

[Josh 1,672]

Should definitely ignore any member that wasn't here prior to that date. Wait that includes me. Shit.

[Fire Tortorella 2,653]

1 minute ago, Frozen Block said:

Give him a second chance, I vote yes

 

Had a second chance, got banned again 3 months later.

[FrostBeard 2,061]

I do want to speak for all people who have common sense - please, be sure to vote "No" for a simple reason, people that remember him and remember dealing will either tell you he was a funny person to have around (Only a few of his friends) or they will tell you that he was a bully and a person you don't want to have around you because of his constant foul language and personal attacks. Be sure to smart and vote "No"
Thanks

[Banackock 8,123]

1 minute ago, Frozen Block said:

Give him a second chance, I vote yes

He’s had more than one chance. Take a look at the VHL ban section. The last permanent banning was his second one.....

[ahawk2191 7]

I wasn't here and don't know the story behind it so please leave me out

[diamond_ace 3,112]

Absolutely not.

[Banackock 8,123]

Just now, FrostBeard said:

I do want to speak for all people who have common sense - please, be sure to vote "No" for a simple reason, people that remember him and remember dealing will either tell you he was a funny person to have around (Only a few of his friends) or they will tell you that he was a bully and a person you don't want to have around you because of his constant foul language and personal attacks. Be sure to smart and vote "No"
Thanks

As the VHLM commissioner and Bears GM, I largely encourage those who do and don’t know, to vote NO.  

 

 

 

 

[Nykonax 1,566]

is this like an official referendum cause i meme voted yes

[Fire Tortorella 2,653]

Just now, Nykonax said:

is this like an official referendum cause i meme voted yes

 

No.

[Banackock 8,123]

Just now, Nykonax said:

is this like an official referendum cause i meme voted yes

I might meme fire you

[diamond_ace 3,112]

Just now, Banackock said:

As the VHLM commissioner and Bears GM, I largely encourage those who do and don’t know, to vote NO.  

 

 

 

 

I'm a No advocate but I encourage those who don't know to abstain from voting in either direction. Those who know will pretty heavily vote no anyway.

[Gustav 6,468]

I wasn't here at the same time as @boubabi, and therefore I'm not going to vote. Don't know the guy, am staying out of serious discussion.

[McLovin 470]

who

[Walter Fizz 84]

@Higgins we’re getting closer to the Doug poll

[Devise 4,475]

As someone who was Blue at the time and was responsible for baning him the first time I also voted no. 

 

I conceded to the arguments behind the scenes when he was given the second chance months after, and there have been years of my life where I genuinely considered Boubabi a friend. But when we as Blue even after all of the drama all privately talked with him and tried to get a final comeback, his "re-interview" message to us was my final nail in the coffin. 

 

I happen to agree with you @Higgins that there was times it crossed the line on multiple sides and Boubabi had reason initially to think he wasn't given a fair shake. But other than Kendrick, the rest of us, especially in Blue/former at the time totally acknowledged that and tried very hard to make amends. 

 

I don't want to hear any bullshit about how this is some PC controlled forum. Just because we ask for a bit more decorum that 4chan doesn't mean we are this beacon of censorship. It was the personal harassment that ultimately pushed Boubabi over the edge. I know you admit he crossed the line then, and I can appreciate your push to see a sentence served, with a chance at redemption. I just don't feel that it's something the league should explore and ultimately unless something has changed it seems it would be short lived anyway, as despite our lax tolerance levels, we were apparently too harsh for his commenting standards.

 

 

[Dil 1,760]

29 minutes ago, Devise said:

doesn't mean we are this beacon of censorship

Didn’t you hide my “Quik is incompetent” joke thread

[Jubo 1,839]

58 minutes ago, Nykonax said:

is this like an official referendum cause i meme voted yes

Nobody is surprised by this

[Baozi 1,662]

1 hour ago, Frozen Block said:

Give him a second chance, I vote yes

 

We're like somewhere in 10th chance if I recall.

 

I voted no but if he came back in totally telling him I was right about  Drouin.

Edited August 4, 2019 by tfong

[McWolf 3,116]

1 hour ago, Nykonax said:

is this like an official referendum cause i meme voted yes

it's a meme referendum so

[Baozi 1,662]

Also pointing out that going back on a perma ban status will weaken staff rulings as a whole. Not really scaring people if they know they can come back in a year.

[Dil 1,760]

2 minutes ago, tfong said:

Also pointing out that going back on a perma ban status will weaken staff rulings as a whole. Not really scaring people if they know they can come back in a year.

What loser would want to come back to a sim league a year after their ban anyways

 

 

 

 

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