Update on SBA Partnership

[solas 1,946]

39 minutes ago, DollarAndADream said:

Kind of gave me a laugh because right after your post, I made a post about my opinions.

Wow this is all your fault

Edited April 9, 2020 by solas

[Snussu 117]

Can we get members tag

[boubabi 4,725]

Is the SBA joining the stock exchange market ?

 

If so, sign me up. I wanna cash in 

[Enorama 1,980]

2 hours ago, Higgins said:

“Unless I sell the SBA”

 

Thanks for the laugh, I needed it

 

Where's Robbie when you need him?

[boubabi 4,725]

26 minutes ago, Snussu said:

Can we get members tag

if I see one more member tag

[boubabi 4,725]

this thread however

Edited April 9, 2020 by boubabi

[Peace 1,518]

Just now, boubabi said:

if I see one more member tag

 

 

[Nykonax 1,550]

oh also just saying sba is the league with the "trash" react so which league is the real bullies

[gorlab 4,321]

10 minutes ago, Nykonax said:

oh also just saying sba is the league with the "trash" react so which league is the real bullies

 

 

Edited April 9, 2020 by gorlab

[Beketov 8,645]

1 hour ago, jacobaa19 said:

Sorry I’ve just read through all of it in the past hour I want clarify that’s what it’s about

That’s what started it but it’s hardly what it’s about.

[BladeMaiden 1,807]

8 hours ago, Advantage said:

I will say, perhaps I'm getting most of my opinions from only one side and am just disappointed we cant work together.

 

You have every right to do what you feel is best though and I'll always respect you as a person even if I don't agree with every decision.

 

And admittedly a lot of my annoyance is I like the SBA but dont want to prioritize it over VHL or do 2 PTs

 

Time to join EFL and get the 3 for 1 special   lol

[NotAVHLM-GM 1,858]

Thanks for the wake up entertainment all. 

[TheFlash 317]

4 hours ago, jacobaa19 said:

So... what I’m getting out of this is if I say... the “g” word I’m hating the lgbtq community... 

 

If you use it in a derogatory sense, as in a substitute for the word stupid, it’s not okay to say. Bottom line.

[Jubis 1,282]

 

                      

 

  

 

I'll just stick to hockey 

 

 

[Higgins 3,617]

9 hours ago, boubabi said:

Is the SBA joining the stock exchange market ?

 

If so, sign me up. I wanna cash in 

S&P 500 here we come

[frescoelmo 1,218]

14 hours ago, Devise said:

 

 

shortest devise post of all time iirc

[jhatty8 662]

18 hours ago, Domkey said:

I have been in the SBA for about a year

 

7 months lol

[Domkey 11]

39 minutes ago, jhatty8 said:

 

7 months lol

shhhh

[Da Trifecta 1,896]

To those posting negatively in here

 

[Gscx420 7]

On 4/8/2020 at 10:09 AM, Molholt said:

Here's the full message:

 

 

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If you'd like further context, there have been a handful of discussions that have happened - I've stayed out of them for the most part and let the BOD handle them, or the people that Beketov has reached out to. With that being said, we've gone in circles for a few months, like Beketov said, and I never saw anything that warranted a serious revisit of our decision. So I decided to save everyone the time. 

 

Let's be honest - there is no partnership here, and there wasn't before. We weren't working together - we were just giving people credit for being on the other site. I championed the partnership to begin with in the hopes of building something bigger than all of our individual leagues, a true community and not just a collection of separate parts. We're focusing on actual partnerships that benefit both sides. 

 

The VHL made a lot of good decisions in the aftermath of the split and I commend them for that. But, Beketov is being a bit disingenuous to say that we didn't come to actually discuss the situation. We were clear about the things we saw as issues and were repeatedly told that identifying them meant we weren't willing to negotiate. Well, that's just not true. We just thought, given the situation, that people shouldn't be going around the VHL's own code of conduct and continuing to make a mockery of the entire situation. 

 

In fact, I sent this message as a direct response to a message we received from Beketov, in which he expressed a similar sentiment. Specifically, he said "I think it might just be time to accept our differences and say we’ll revisit this far down the line but right now it just doesn’t seem likely. I don’t like it but I can’t keep knocking just to have a door slammed in my face and I don’t think it’s reasonable to assume everyone is gonna play nicely when they are constantly told it’s not enough and isn’t going to be." For context: a couple of SBA admins had identified a number of members (including VHL admins) continuing to mock the SBA and our position around the use of slurs as problems we wanted to resolve before resuming any sort of affiliation. As I understand it, Bek asked to be notified of instances when this occurred.

 

SBA admins pointed out these instances and received the above response (original is much longer), which essentially told us that doing what he had asked meant we'd clearly never change our decision (again, not true). Given that this type of "discussion" has been going on for months, I agreed that it wasn't worth either side's time. We felt like the VHL shouldn't have administration publicly shitting on a potential partner, Beketov thought that was unreasonable to ask. That's why we are where we are.

 

I'm not here to admire my handy work @Beketov, just providing some context for those curious. As a member with a HoF player, a spectacular run as GM (a three-peat, the first and only of it's kind) and long-time relationships with a lot of the members here (some of which aren't even in the SBA), my goal was never to sever this relationship for some personal issues. I'd have thought better of those of you who seem to believe that. I've built and ran leagues with @Doomsday and you Bek. I got my start in leagues with @Advantage. I guess your opinion of me is much lower than mine was of you. I'm sorry to hear that. 

Clown

[Da Trifecta 1,896]

2 minutes ago, Gscx420 said:

Clown

 

See, there is no need for that. What is your problem?

[NotAVHLM-GM 1,858]

5 hours ago, Da Trifecta said:

 

See, there is no need for that. What is your problem?

Go home DT , like your an angel smh....

[Da Trifecta 1,896]

12 minutes ago, OrbitingDeath said:

Go home DT , like your an angel smh....

 

I've done my time but when it comes to this kind of topic, there is no need for it. So why not pipe down and move along!

[NotAVHLM-GM 1,858]

Efl world cup wasnt that long ago

[Da Trifecta 1,896]

11 minutes ago, OrbitingDeath said:

Efl world cup wasnt that long ago

 

Yup and I apologized for my actions, again I did my time.